Chapter 346: Nurhachi is Korean (Part 2)
Chapter 346 Nurhachi is Korean (Part 2)
Author: Orthodox Khan Ali Buge
Chapter 346 Nurhachi is Korean (Part 2)
This idea is to admit that one is a Yi Di, but to show that Yi Di is also a human being and should not be treated differently, which means that the derogatory connotation of Yi Di is stripped away. And if you ask others not to belittle Yi Di, of course you have to do the same, so Yongzheng also specifically said,
From now on, everyone can use the word Yi Di casually without any taboo.
The problem is that the Qing Dynasty court has always been very taboo about these titles. They can't stand it when people say related words. In this way, they are tantamount to admitting that Yi Di is a curse.
Similarly, people at the time believed that the Qing Dynasty's process of conquering the world was very cruel and had nothing to do with virtue, but rather the behavior of animals. Yongzheng tried to defend himself, but he could not explain the various behaviors of the Qing Dynasty. Not only that, Yongzheng himself was particularly enthusiastic
When it comes to debating scriptures with others, I won’t give up even if I can’t prove my innocence. I loudly discuss with others every day whether my ancestors were beasts...
After all this fuss, it would be better not to talk about it.
Moreover, relatively speaking, these are no longer fundamental problems: although it is difficult to explain, they are essentially faults caused by specific behaviors. In addition, this theory has a fundamental loophole.
The Qing Dynasty was first of all a hereditary dynasty, and in the East, all dynasties have to face a problem: they have to prove at the same time that it is reasonable for them to start and establish a new dynasty; it is unreasonable for others to start and establish a new dynasty now. This is actually a problem.
Even the Han Dynasty could not explain the self-contradictory problem well at the beginning.
The Ming Dynasty's explanation was based on "expelling the Tartars" as a reason. Zhu Yuanzhang had this righteous title at the time, but those who opposed the Ming Dynasty did not necessarily have it. Therefore, this difference was cleverly used to answer the self-contradiction.
issues of legality.
This is why it is so important whether Zhu Yuanzhang accepted the Yuan Dynasty's imperial edict. Normally, this should not be a big issue, but under this legality discussion, it is very important.
Not only did the Qing Dynasty not have such available conditions, but on the contrary, it was criticized as a barbarian. It must explain more seriously that it was not rebelling as a rebellious traitor, otherwise everyone will have to learn from it.
Therefore, all dynasties in the past have almost always belittled other rebels of the same era, which is also part of the argument for legitimacy. Although it seems that they have turned their backs on others, in order to cater to tradition and win the support of scholar-bureaucrats, it would not work otherwise.
For example, the Ming Dynasty accused the Red Scarf Army of being "thieves" in the official "History of the Yuan Dynasty". Moreover, because the compilation was too hasty and without careful review, Zhu Yuanzhang's Red Scarf Army was sometimes also called a thief...
Some people also believe that this was due to the dissatisfaction of the literati at that time with Zhu Yuanzhang. No matter how much he expressed his position, everyone still thought that he was a thief. As for whether it was intentional or careless, there is no way to verify.
The only exception is probably the Han Dynasty. According to Liu Bang's order, the Western Han Dynasty officially recognized and worshiped Chen Sheng. Because the Han Dynasty won the world, in the eyes of people at the time, it was actually a "war for hegemony", which was the same as Qin's destruction of the six kingdoms.
That's right. Liu Bang's claim to the throne was theoretically recommended by the princes.
The unification war did not end until the period of Emperor Jing of the Han Dynasty. The long war and strong strength gave the Han Dynasty sufficient legitimacy. As a dynasty that truly unified the world, it did not need to care.
These issues. Confucian scholars in the Han Dynasty even often discussed the issue of revolution and change of dynasties, so that it became a prominent scholar. Later dynasties generally did not have this kind of confidence.
How did the Qing Dynasty solve this problem? Judging from the results, it was impossible to solve it.
Starting from the Han Dynasty, the legitimacy of successive dynasties was worse than the last. By the Song Dynasty, it had basically disappeared.
The Yuan Dynasty essentially started from scratch, giving up the names of vassal states since the Western Zhou Dynasty, and the corresponding legal system of originating from one place, unifying the Xia, and treating "I am the biggest, I am the most legitimate" as a legal theory. The Ming Dynasty used
The reasons for expelling the Mongols were successfully extended again. By the time the Qing Dynasty took over, the available reasons had basically been exhausted.
The Qing Dynasty followed the usual practice of accusing Li Zicheng and others of being "thieves", but unlike other dynasties, it could not use this to declare the difference between itself and other "thieves and bandits" and to emphasize its legitimacy.
If Yongzheng's idea can be implemented, it will indeed help bridge the contradiction between Manchu and Han. However, at the same time, it will not only not help establish the legitimacy of the dynasty, but will even be an act of digging for its own roots.
One of the most important foundations of the territory and governance concepts of the Central Plains dynasty is the view of the world, which cannot be abandoned. It acknowledges that the Manchus are a regional group of people and declares that there is no difference between the Han and Manchus. There is no problem in looking at it alone, and combine it with the view of the world.
, it’s troublesome.
Because according to this theory, the Manchus were obviously part of the "people of the world" and should have fallen under the legal jurisdiction of the emperor of the Ming Dynasty at that time. Therefore, when the Manchus raised troops to fight against the Ming Dynasty, they were undoubtedly more powerful than Li Zicheng, Zhang Xianzhong and other lower-class people.
The uprising will require more serious rebellious behavior.
It's okay to say that Li Zicheng is a bandit, but then he becomes a giant bandit...
Therefore, "the Huayi family", "the world", and "the legitimacy of the hereditary dynasty" can only ever require two of these three points.
Almost all the various attempts of the Qing Dynasty hit a wall here. For example, later, Qianlong also specially ordered the compilation of "The Biography of Erchen" and separated it from the Ming Dynasty officials who surrendered to the Qing Dynasty, hoping to further distance themselves from the "thieves and bandits".
Improve the legitimacy of your own dynasty.
But this traditional method is still difficult to be effective. Because applying the "view of the world", it is not difficult to find that the biggest enemy in the late Ming Dynasty was General Jianzhou Wei Longhu, and the rest of them were just his minions.
The more publicity this gets, the more troublesome it becomes...
After a series of failed attempts, the Qing Dynasty's discussion of legitimacy was basically flat.
It was only two months after Yongzheng's death, and before he could change the Yuan Dynasty, Qianlong urgently banned his propaganda books, promoted Mandarin, and imposed strict laws to restrain the bannermen. After that, everyone could only keep rereading the moral principles of the monarch and his ministers.
If we do this, we will no longer be able to create meaningful innovations.
Even so, the negative effects are difficult to eliminate.
People accused him of "the barbarians stole the throne and polluted China, just like robbers who robbed the family property, drove my master out and occupied my home." Yongzheng found that this accusation was very powerful and was the main point of contention, so he put this statement
He copied it directly from the "forbidden book" and announced to the whole world: "Now some people accuse me of 'the Yi and Di stealing the throne, polluting China, etc.', I don't think that is the case..."
In short, Yongzheng was too sincere when he wrote his book, and when he refuted others, he had to quote the other party's original documents... In this way, everyone knew the problems analyzed.
Under this situation, Qianlong could only try his best to patch things up. Regarding the most dangerous issue of "General Longhu's rebellion", he also started from "the world" and tried his best to prove that his family's ancestors were not within the scope of the Ming Dynasty's rule.
For this reason, Qianlong specifically researched the origins of Manchuria and tried his best to push the origin of his ancestors away from the Central Plains. Finally, he finally came to the conclusion that the Aixinjueluo family came from three Koreas.
This result is shocking in a sense. However, it finally avoids the more embarrassing problem of "taking the lead in rebellion" for hereditary dynasties.
Although the price was a violent argument like "Nurhachi is Korean", it was finally resolved and it was worth it...
Chapter completed!