Chapter 209 Several discussions on military industry

The last person Sun Changmi introduced was his colleague, You Yihan, a representative of the China General Office sent by the Ministry of Shipping. You Yihan is a 29-year-old single man. His hometown is Qingdao, Shandong. He is a typical Shandong man with a stocky appearance. Before crossing over, he

The Qingdao Port Authority is engaged in freight warehousing, and after joining Chuanchuan Group, he was naturally assigned to the shipping department. You Yihan once participated in the planning and design of the two terminals of Shengli Port and Black Tu Port. He is very concerned about sea freight.

I am familiar with the situation. After arriving at the Guangdong Office, I will be responsible for the freight management in Guangzhou.

The Ministry of Shipping sent You Yihan to Guangzhou, firstly, in response to the Executive Committee's call for all departments to recommend the best soldiers and generals as much as possible to build the Guangdong Office into a bridgehead in the mainland. Secondly, it also took a fancy to Guangzhou Bay's role in future transportation in the South China Sea region.

As an important position in the system, we directly dispatched capable personnel to build this front station and make preparations for subsequent development plans.

Geographically speaking, Guangzhou is the largest foreign trade port in South China. It is also the closest large-scale trading port to the Victory Port, the headquarters of Chuan Chuan Group. In the future, it will be the most important place for Chuan Chuan Group to conduct business with the mainland.

It has a very important strategic value. The existence of the Guangdong Guangdong Office is not only to maintain commercial activities between the two places, but also to purchase raw materials, organize immigration, collect intelligence, military early warning and other functions, and implement

It can be said that the manpower sent by the committee to Guangzhou this time is no less capable than that of the Guangzhou Garrison Office and Heitu Port, and the policy support received by the Guangzhou Garrison Office is even more than that of the first two overseas units - in the mainland.

, the General Office in Guangdong is the spokesperson of the Cross Travel Group, and the words and actions of the General Office in Guangdong can represent the attitude of the Cross Travel Group towards Daming.

This means that the Executive Committee has a high degree of trust in the words and deeds of the General Office of the People's Republic of China. The Office has a high degree of freedom to act and can make its own decisions on most daily matters - of course, if it wants to declare war on the Ming Dynasty,

You still have to talk to the base camp first. Although the Cross-Travel Group has the most advanced high-tech contact methods of this era, the executive committee believes that the working method of "asking for instructions early and reporting later" is not suitable for the Guangdong-based station.

Only by setting up such an organization and giving appropriate freedom can these people fully utilize their abilities.

Before the time travel, several high-level people had several discussions on how to control the vast territory under the rule of the time travel regime in the future. The time travel group started to build a new world by settling on the island, so the way to expand outwards must be

Using the ocean as a springboard to continuously build colonization points to control a wider area, how to ensure that these colonization points will not suddenly become ambitious and establish independent kingdoms after they have the ability to self-generate has become a topic before the top management.

In addition to traditional political and economic leadership, senior officials believe that it is more important to firmly control various strategic resources in the hands of the executive committee.

Energy and steel are the top priorities. Steel production can almost be regarded as a symbol of a country's national strength, and energy is the most important guarantee for steel production. As long as the executive committee can firmly control these two resources, even if

It is just one of them, so the development of colonization points will inevitably depend on the base camp for a long time. Looking at the entire South China Sea region, Hainan Island is probably the only place that has the conditions to build a coal-iron composite industrial base on a large scale, so this policy will be very important in the future.

It will continue to be implemented for a long period of time until one day the time-traveling regime can have a more complete political system to maintain and manage the settlement points and colonies all over the place.

The Executive Committee does not expect the Office in Guangdong to turn Guangzhou into a new colonial point for the Cross-Travel Group in the mainland within a few years. Although the Ming Empire has begun to decline, after all, its lifespan has not yet come to an end. In the short term,

The Inner Crossing Group does not have enough power to shake this country, and entering a state of hostility with the Ming Dynasty too early will be very detrimental to the Crossing Group's plan to use the mainland market for economic expansion.

Sun Changmi and You Yihan took this opportunity to explain to the people present some of the executive committee's long-term plans for the Guangdong region. The export of goods and culture to the mainland naturally takes Guangzhou as the core area, which is also where the Guangdong station is located.

The main tasks in the coming period will be completed. The territorial expansion of the cross-regional regime, or the pace of military expansion, will not involve Guangzhou in the short term, which is likely to cause a head-on conflict with the Ming Empire. The Ministry of Shipping and the Ministry of Military and Police

They all believe that the more valuable expansion targets are actually still at sea, such as the Wanshan Islands that can control the Pearl River Estuary channel or the adjacent Xin'an County and Hong Kong areas.

Sun Changmi said: "In terms of our development model, controlling shipping routes should be the first choice. Its significance is even greater than occupying a state or county in the mainland. The Pearl River Estuary is undoubtedly the most important in the area south of the Taiwan Strait.

As long as we can gain a firm foothold in the Pearl River Estuary, it can truly be said that the revolution has achieved a phased victory."

You Yihan said: "If we look at the terrain alone, then we will undoubtedly choose the coasts along Tsuen Wan, Stonecutters Island, West Kowloon and Tsim Sha Tsui, or directly occupy Hong Kong Island and build around Victoria Harbor in the future.

A future naval base that can control the Pearl River Estuary. But the problem is that the Ming Dynasty has troops stationed in these places. If we want to seize these places, we will inevitably have an armed conflict with the Ming Dynasty."

Xiao Liang interjected and added: "Based on our preliminary investigation results when we arrived, I think the navy stationed in Xin'an County is far above the Yazhou Navy in terms of equipment size and training level. We cannot underestimate these Ming Dynasty naval forces."

In the Navy, before we have heavy artillery and giant ships, if we have to fight with such a well-trained regular army at sea, we will probably not gain much advantage."

"Speaking of heavy artillery giant ships, I really need to ask my colleagues in the Shipping Department. It has been more than two months since the shipyard laid the keel. I see that no ship model has been released yet. When will you design this new ship?

How can I get into the water?" Yu Yao couldn't help but ask: "At this speed, people of our generation can't expect to see ironclad ships crossing the seven seas, right?"

Sun Changmi sighed and said: "It is easy to design but difficult to build. There are hundreds of ready-made shipbuilding drawings in the database, and there are many that can be used. But either there is no construction experience, or the materials and processing techniques are not good enough."

It cannot meet the requirements, and the shipbuilders in the current shipyard have only built Fu Ship or Guangzhou Ship, but if they completely copy these two ship types, they can only be used for cargo transportation and cannot meet the requirements of the navy at all. You know Yan

Are there any requirements given to our design department here? A ship with a displacement of two to three hundred tons must be equipped with at least ten 12-pound guns, and at least two 18-pound heavy guns, and the number of sailors must not exceed thirty.

The normal speed is no less than ten knots... The main warships of the Ming army have a larger displacement than this, and only have one red barbarian cannon and six folang machines. Is it difficult to pack so many cannons into a small ship?

Disaster?"

Now the executive committee's thinking on developing maritime power has changed somewhat compared to before the time travel, because the reality is too cruel, and the speed of shipbuilding cannot keep up with actual demand. If we wait for the shipyards to slowly accumulate experience, then the first

It is estimated that they can only operate in the offshore area of ​​Hainan Island for two or three years. Fortunately, the development of Black Earth Port has allowed the Executive Committee to discover a new idea, that is, cargo ships can first use bought or even rented Chinese sailing ships, while the shipyards are concentrated

Solving some problems in improving ship performance, especially for military purposes. Of course, so far, the shipyard, which has been established for several months, has not made any breakthrough progress, not even the first test ship

The progress of the shipyard has also appeared to be very slow, and Yu Yao is far from the only one who has questioned the work efficiency of the shipyard.

"If you want to install so many guns on the ship, you must have artillery retraction devices." Xiao Liang had some knowledge about this and explained for Sun Changmi: "But before, because the steel production was very limited and the processing equipment was not in place,

, the military industrial unit cannot make a hydraulic repulsion device, so it is impossible to equip a large number of large-caliber artillery on wooden sailing ships of this tonnage."

"Can we do it now?" Yu Yao asked.

"It can be done, but the production capacity is very limited. Hydraulic devices have relatively high requirements for machining accuracy, and the processing technology is relatively complex. The production efficiency of this thing is not higher than that of steam engines at this stage. In addition, it is now self-made

The progress of the test ship is very slow, and the military industry department believes that it cannot be shipped for testing in the rush to build it, so the artillery hydraulic retraction device has not been included in the priority production list." Xiao Liang has several people in the military industry department.

He is a friend doing things, so he has more inside information than others.

Sun Changmi complained bitterly: "The problem is that the military industry department has not finalized the mass production. The hydraulic retraction gun mount has uncertain specifications. How can we calculate the counterweight balance of the ship? When the ship is built and it is found that there is a problem with the gun mount, how can we

To tear the ship apart and start over again?”

"This is a matter of coordination and communication between your two departments." Schneider said something fair: "You can definitely communicate the design requirements in advance! Well, after you go back, contact the military industry department and the military police department.

The three parties will hold a joint meeting to make their respective requirements clear, and then discuss how to coordinate the relationship between production and design. If the test boat is not launched by the end of the year, I don’t think Mr. Tao and Mr. Yan will make it easy for you.

of!"

Sun Changmi shook his head and said: "It's not that simple. The shipyard is in Shengli Port and the military industry department is in Tiandu. Many technical changes cannot be explained clearly by phone or radio. They must be discussed in person with drawings.

Okay. These two places are more than ten miles apart. If there is a small problem, you have to go back and forth twenty or thirty miles to solve it. Who do you think has so much free time?"

"It seems it's time to set up our own lolicon company!" He Xi suddenly interjected in a very deep tone.

"What loli?" Chen Tianqi, who had been drunk by everyone just now, somehow heard this keyword and woke up immediately.

"It's not a lolicon, it's a Norinco." Schneider said. Except for a few people from the Military and Police Department, almost everyone else looked blank. Ma Yu's face was even red, and she didn't know it was because of drinking.

The drinker was still excited to hear this topic, and immediately explained: "Sister Ma, we are not talking about the kind of lolita you think, we are all gentlemen, absolute gentlemen!"

Chen Tianqi coughed dryly and said, "Gentleman is actually not a good word... In otaku culture, gentleman is sometimes synonymous with pervert."

Schneider glared at Chen Tianqi and quickly changed the topic back to normal: "The lolicon company He Xi mentioned is actually ChinaNorth Industries Corporation, or Norinco in short. It sounds like lolicon."

"Mr. Shi, you've been going around and around for a long time talking about what exactly is a lolicon?" Sha Xi has no education. Everyone else has almost understood it, but he is the only one who is still asking endless questions.

"It's Norinco." He Xi replied for Schneider: "The number one arms dealer under the China Ordnance Industry Group. Our great motherland ranks among the top five arms exporters in the world, and this company has played an indispensable role."

Sha Xi blinked his eyes in confusion and said: "They are just arms dealers who sell guns and cannons. What does it have to do with our current plan to build gunboats?"

"Norinco is actually a military-industrial complex." Schneider took over the topic again: "As it is now, each department is responsible for a military project, and it is easy for the situation we are currently encountering in building test ships to occur.

This is a problem of separate formations. If we have a comprehensive unit that covers a series of military services such as research, trial production, manufacturing, sales, and maintenance, we can allocate various units for effective collaboration during the weapon development process. Even from the point of view of the weapon

The subsequent trial production, mass production, equipment, maintenance and other work should be planned at the beginning of research and development, instead of like we are now, all military projects are crossing the river by feeling the stones and lacking a unified arrangement plan."

"Actually, the responsibilities of such a unit are currently shouldered by the executive committee. However, the executive committee has too much work, and not all executive committee members understand the various aspects of military manufacturing. The scale of the industry is small.

It can still be sustained at times, but if the scale of the industry is slightly larger, such as expanding military services or increasing external arms exports, the Executive Committee alone may not be able to manage it." He Xi also has a relatively deep understanding of this issue.

and understanding.

Sun Changmi nodded repeatedly after hearing this: "You're absolutely right. The current situation is like this. The military and police department only knows how to make demands and has no idea what the difficulties are in realizing these demands. However, the military industry department only wants to follow the requirements.

We should upgrade according to our own technology tree plan, regardless of whether our shipping department can keep up. The executive committee has coordinated many times, but it has not had much effect. Mr. Yan was on the executive committee

There was a proposal to establish a higher-level military industry administration department once, but I heard it was rejected."

"I also listened when Mr. Yan made the suggestion. The matter is indeed not as simple as what you say." Xiao Liang took over and said: "The Ministry of Military Industry is currently mainly under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Industry, while the shipyard belongs to the Ministry of Shipping.

If a separate competent unit is established to manage the development of military industry projects, it will be equivalent to placing part of the Ministry of Industry and the Ministry of Shipping under the name of the Military and Police Department. Now there are many people who are privately complaining about the excessive power of the Military and Police Department.

It would be damning if this kind of proposal could be passed by the Executive Committee.”

"Military industry projects must involve multiple departments for joint development, but there will always be disputes over the division of power between the three units. So, the time to solve this problem is far away?" Yu Yao said about the usual problems in this kind of bureaucratic system.

He felt very angry about the problem, but limited by his vision and knowledge, he could not think of any solution to the problem at the moment.

"That's not necessarily true." You Yihan, who had been listening for a long time, suddenly said: "The key is to have interests. The reason for the emergence of the military-industrial complex is driven by interests. Once you have the money, you can see if these units will still be like

There is such a lack of enthusiasm right now.”

At this point, You Yihan laughed self-deprecatingly and said: "Although I also belong to the Ministry of Shipping, and I shouldn't expose my shortcomings on such occasions, the Ministry of Shipping does have its own little calculations when it comes to the development of military projects.

Now the development and construction costs of this test ship are coordinated and arranged by the Executive Committee. If the Military and Police Department places an order in the future, the money will definitely have to be allocated by the Executive Committee. In the final analysis, it is the Executive Committee that uses the money to do things. Then the Maritime Department officials

Why should we obey the command of the Military and Police Department? I am not saying this to sow discord between the two families, so don’t take it seriously."

He Xi waved his hand to indicate that it was okay, and Xiao Liang and Yu Yao also said that it had nothing to do with it. Morgan pricked up his ears and tried to understand a little more of You Yihan's Shandong pronunciation, not even thinking about whether there was any other meaning in his words.

You Yihan continued: "But if there are enough benefits to enable all units involved in weapon design, research and development, and production and manufacturing to gain huge profits, then the pressure to establish a competent department will be reduced a lot, and the profitability of this development model

Ability will silence all those who hold objections. Of course, before that we all have to make achievements first."

"Are there any successful cases of this model you mentioned?" Sha Xi asked with great interest.

"The largest arms dealer in the world before time travel was the United States. Everyone doesn't deny this, right?" You Yihan looked around at everyone, and then continued: "In 2011, the total value of arms exports by the United States exceeded 400 billion US dollars, and the strongest

The transaction volume of several military-industrial complexes accounted for half of this. In the same year, our country's military expenditure was only more than 140 billion US dollars. Just think about how much money these military-industrial complexes made from it? The Yankees are inciting wars all over the world, but there is really no one

They rolled up their sleeves when they were being beaten, not because they were too full to hold up, but because of the huge interests behind it - even the foreign policy of the United States had to succumb to such interests."
Chapter completed!