Chapter 400 Digging a hole, super large wafer factory!
Now, the Xingyi lidar department has only been in operation for two months and has a R&D team of more than 300 people.
Then some administrative staff will be transferred from Xingyi Technology to assist, and the entire department structure will be perfected.
Of course, we have to continue to recruit people in the future.
In the field of lidar, if you want to make a breakthrough quickly, you have to invest manpower, material resources, and funds like crazy!
Use manpower to shorten time!
Hesai Technology's initial team of 560 people grew to more than 1,000 people two years later.
In the previous life, Huawei directly invested 10,000 people in its lidar R&D center in Optics Valley!
There are no surprises, Huawei's lidar is making rapid progress.
Similarly, if Xingyi lidar wants to develop rapidly, it must also implement the violent force flow!
We also have to invest money earned in other fields into research and development in cutting-edge fields.
Not to mention tens of thousands of people invested like Huawei, but at least 1,500 people.
Wang Yi looked at Tonya Dhawan: "If you need anything, just ask."
"Chairman, we don't have any other needs, but in the long run, we need a professional R&D center with all kinds of cutting-edge equipment."
Wang Yi nodded: "That's easy to say. The second phase of Xingyi Science and Technology Park has been completed. It is the same as the first phase here, with an area of 200 acres. There are still a few empty office buildings. Go and see if there is anything you like.
, it can be used directly as a laser radar research center. If one building is not enough, just two! You can list the equipment you need and submit it to the company for purchase!"
"Thank you, Chairman!" Tonya Dawan was full of joy. She never expected that Wang Yi would attach such importance to her.
There is no way, the research and development of lidar is a long-term project.
16 lines, 32 lines, 64 lines, 128 lines... the performance is constantly iterated.
If it breaks through the 64 line, then the 128 line is fine. The problem is that the breakthrough is just the beginning, and the cost must be continuously reduced!
The 64 lines for 500,000 yuan and the 128 lines for 800,000 yuan are all garbage and cannot be commercially used at all.
Only when it reaches about 10,000 can it be commercially used in large quantities.
And this can only increase research and development efforts and investment in research and development.
"In addition, regarding the specific research and development goals, how will the chairman plan to arrange it?" Tonya Dhawan asked. This matter must be decided by the funder!
Wang Yi has already considered this: "I plan to make a home sweeping robot. I need a lidar that is not high-end, but reliable and low-cost. It is best to mass-produce the laser radar with a cost of less than 300 yuan."
The functions of the sweeping robots these days are very simple. They do not have automatic dust collection, automatic water supply, automatic mop washing and other functions that will be available after many years. The cleaning effect is also average, but the price is very expensive.
Even a sweeping robot without lidar costs four to five thousand.
Anyone with laser guidance and decent functions would cost more than 8,000, or even more than 10,000.
At this price, you can hire a nanny for four or five months. After all, the price of a nanny in 2012 was only more than 2,000 a month.
The reason is that lidar is too expensive. Even the low-end lidar used by sweeping robots costs more than 1,000. Just use two or three, and it will cost three to four thousand.
Including batteries and other components, the material cost is 5,000. Adding taxes and other costs, selling for 81,000 is very reasonable.
However, at such a price, the sweeping robot is destined to be a niche product and cannot be sold at all, and the public cannot afford it.
The solution is to bring down the price of lidar!
"The lidar of a household sweeping robot costs about three hundred yuan..." Tonya Dhawan fell into deep thought:
"The technology is not difficult. If it costs a thousand yuan, it can be done casually. But if you want to reduce the cost, you need to do some research. In this way, I will arrange a few flexible assistants and lead 30 people to work for two or three months.
Make a plan. If we mass produce 100,000-level products, the cost should be as low as 300!"
"Okay!" Wang Yi beamed with joy. Sure enough, this kind of low-level lidar is just child's play for experts like Tonya Dhawan. The key is how to reduce the cost:
"The remaining 300 people are all developing high-end automotive radars, and they are also pursuing performance and reducing costs!"
Tonya Dhawan nodded: "Chairman, since we are building a car radar, I suggest giving up the 16-line and 32-line lidar and directly making a 64-line lidar!"
"Yes, the detection range of 32-line laser radar is too close to be used in cars, so we can just use 64-line laser radar." Wang Yi said.
Although everyone knows that 128 lines are better, the problem is that the technology is difficult and the cost is high.
These days, 64-line laser radar costs 500,000 yuan, let alone 128-line laser radar, and it cannot be produced in the short term...
The development of science and technology is never a leap forward.
If it weren't for Tonya Dhawan, the star, Xingyi LiDAR might have started developing from the 16th line.
It is precisely with Daniel leading the team that we can abandon the low-end 16-line and 32-line and go straight to 64-line!
It can only be said that this big man is worth poaching, and his annual salary of 7 million yuan is worth it!
There is no way, Tonya Dhawan's annual salary abroad is US$700,000 to 800,000. If you want to lure him back, you can only offer him an annual salary of one million US dollars.
But great value for money.
As long as we build a 300-yuan lidar for a sweeping robot, we can make our money back.
After all, the material cost of the lidar sweeping robot from a friend is only 5,000, and it sells for 8,000, or 10,000.
The material cost of Wang Yi’s lidar sweeping robot is less than 2,000 yuan, and it sells like crazy for 4,999 yuan.
As for low-priced car radars, they are all in vain.
This kind of field is typically high investment and high output!
"Similarly, automotive lidar ranks first in cost savings while ensuring performance!"
Wang Yi changed the subject: "The price of 500,000 yuan for the 64-line lidar is too expensive and cannot be used. After all, a car only costs several hundred thousand."
Tonya Dhawan nodded: "Yes, we must adopt a new solution to reduce the cost to hundreds of thousands!"
"No, hundreds of thousands is too expensive." Wang Yi waved his hand: "Down to ten thousand, or even less than ten thousand!"
"What? Down to 10,000! This is impossible! Absolutely impossible!"
Tonya Dhawan was startled: "Dr. Wang, the current 64-line lidar sells for 500,000 yuan, and the cost is three to four hundred thousand. Even if I were a god, it would be impossible for me to sell the laser radar that costs three to four hundred thousand."
Lidar costs only RMB 10,000, which is unrealistic."
Wang Yi smiled: "There is nothing unrealistic. The reason why mechanical radar cannot be done now is that the cost of mechanical radar is too high. We can use semi-solid radar to greatly reduce the cost..."
"Semi-solid radar?" Tonya Dhawan was confused. There was no such thing these days.
They are all mechanical laser radars that scan in circles.
"You come with me."
Wang Yi took Tonya Dhawan back to his office, developed the information prepared in his notebook, and introduced it to Tonya Dhawan in detail:
"This is the design of semi-solid lidar..."
Wang Yi only remembered what semi-solid radar was like in his previous life, but he didn't know how to develop it specifically. Tonya Dhawan had to solve it.
It is equivalent to Wang Yi giving the final answer to the question and asking Tonya Dhawan to reverse the process of solving the problem. This is much easier than breaking through from scratch. At least he has the correct ultimate direction.
"Semi-solid radar..." Tonya Dhawan looked at the information provided by Wang Yi, her eyes lit up, and she instantly understood what Wang Yi meant:
"Director Wang, you are really a genius, a great genius!"
"This idea is completely feasible. It can reduce the size of lidar many times, greatly reduce costs, and reduce the size of radar! It's perfect!"
Then the two talked about other technical things. Tonya Dhawan was filled with emotion and felt that he had benefited a lot.
The research and development direction that was originally vague was enlightened in an instant after Wang Yi gave me some advice!
Professional people do professional things.
Wang Yi knew what a semi-solid radar looked like, but he didn't know how to make it.
And Tonya Dhawan knew what to do, but she didn’t know how to do it successfully.
Now that the two of them had a conversation, everything was solved.
"Chairman, thank you for your advice. I really came to the right place, haha."
"This semi-solid-state lidar is a brand-new solution for lidar, which is a full era ahead of the solutions of those giants!"
Wang Yi nodded: "Yes, and semi-solid laser radar is a new field. We are the first to develop it and will not infringe on Velodyne's mechanical laser radar patents. We can take the opportunity to obtain a large number of semi-solid laser radar patents and build
Our patent barriers.”
Tonya Dhawan was extremely excited: "Yes, during our subsequent research and development, we registered all the patents that can be registered. In the future, lidar giant Velodyne will not only be unable to sue us, but may even be sued by us, haha!
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"Don't worry, I will lead the team to start research and development. I will try my best to produce a 64-line lidar in one year and reduce the cost to 10,000 within two years!"
"Okay!" Wang Yi was in a good mood.
30 people develop low-end lidar for sweeping robots.
300 people are engaged in semi-solid research and development.
We will recruit another 300 people in the future to engage in all-solid-state research and development!
Advance in all three directions.
Wang Yi knows very well that the mature solution in ten years’ time will be semi-solid + full-solid literacy!
After all, although all-solid-state is advanced, it also has major disadvantages, and it is difficult to stand alone.
However, the space in Xingyi Science and Technology Park seems to be a bit stretched.
The 200 acres of open space in the second phase of Xingyi Science and Technology Park has been built. Including the first phase, there is a total of 400 acres of science and technology park, all of which are low-rise single-family office buildings.
Nowadays, most office buildings are used by various business departments.
If one or two more are used as laser radar R&D centers, the remaining vacant office buildings will become even more insufficient.
However, in addition to the lidar R&D center, there is also the R&D of Sanden, which is stretched no matter how you look at it.
It’s better to build a new science and technology park!
The general business department can be placed in Jeju, where many office buildings in Meiyu Technology Park have been built and will be put into use soon.
However, it is better to place such cutting-edge fields in first-tier cities to facilitate attracting talents.
At present, in the imperial capital, there are Xingyi Technology Headquarters, Xingyi Semiconductor, Xingyi Games, Xingyi Media...
Jeju has Xingyi Mobile Phone, Xingyi Tablet, Meiyou Technology, and Wujie Technology Headquarters.
Daocheng also has Xingyi Smart Home and Xingyi TV.
Even Shenzhen City has an Unbounded TV Industrial Park.
On the contrary, here in the Magic City, there is only one Xiaoi robot, which was rented by the original Xiaoi company...
That being said, there is indeed some preference for one over the other.
Then it would be better to put the Xingyi Automobile headquarters, including the R&D center, in the Magic City!
As for the lidar R&D center, it is still located in the Imperial Capital.
The imperial capital has universities such as Qingbei University and Beihang University, making it easier to recruit people.
However, if Xingyi Automobile is placed in Shanghai, it can directly seize Tesla's territory!
Of course, you can also place it here in the Imperial Capital, it all depends on which side offers the best discounts.
To put it bluntly, what Wang Yi cares about is his car-making qualifications.
If the capital cannot solve the problem of car manufacturing qualifications, then Xingyi Automobile will fall in the imperial capital.
Similarly, if the emperor cannot solve the problem, then you can also consider Shenzhen City, Guangzhou City...
In short, whoever provides car-making qualifications and provides good policies will be where Wang Yi invests!
Even one on each side is fine.
Companies like Tesla and BYD have multiple super factories.
Similarly, for Xingyi Automobile, a factory covering an area of 1,000 acres is not enough, not even 2,000 acres.
One super factory each in the imperial capital and the magical capital is not enough.
Thinking of this, Wang Yi dialed Song Sining's phone: "Sining, take the time to go to the Magic City and tell us that we want to build the Xingyi Automobile Industrial Park and talk about their tone. Especially the license plate issue."
"Okay, Chairman." Song Sining understood Wang Yi's meaning at once: "If the city of Shanghai can get a car manufacturing license, we will invest in building a factory in the city? How big will it be?"
"Yes, 1,500 acres!" Wang Yida said.
Tesla’s Magic City Gigafactory is Tesla’s third Gigafactory, covering an area of approximately 1,300 acres.
Xiaomi Motors’ Imperial Capital factory covers an area of about 1,080 acres.
Xingyi Technology takes action and directly acquires 1,500 acres!
Nowadays, the land price is cheap, it is easy to negotiate the price, and the local government is willing to give away the land.
A few years later, land prices in Magic City became more expensive. It would be difficult to negotiate the price again, and the conditions would be much more stringent.
Wang Yi made up his mind to take advantage of the current cheap land prices to enclose more land and build more industrial parks.
A 1,500-acre automobile industrial park will be circled in the Magic City, and another one will be circled in the Imperial Capital!
NIO, Xpeng, and Ideal will start developing new energy sources in the next year or so.
"Okay, I'll make arrangements for Meiyou, and we'll go there the day after tomorrow. It just so happens that Modu has always wanted us to invest," Song Sining said with a smile.
Originally, Wang Yi had to make investments of this size in person.
No need now, it's enough for Song Sining to go. When the negotiation is good, Wang Yi will go to make a decision and sign the contract.
"Okay. Of course, the approval of the 1,500-acre industrial park and license depends on our car-making technology and capabilities. Now that we have just started car-making, it is estimated that this matter will not be discussed. We can sign a gambling agreement." Wang Yi said.
"Okay, let me go and talk first."
"Yeah." Wang Yi nodded.
If Modu solves the problem of car manufacturing licenses, then it won't be a big problem.
At present, BAIC is the capital of the capital city, but there is nothing in the capital city of Shanghai. It is in urgent need of cultivating a new energy vehicle!
For this reason, the previous life of Magic City signed Nezha Automobile in 2014, and then signed WM Motor in 2015, but both failed to live up to expectations, and in the end they had to introduce Tesla!
However, in comparison, Xingyi Automobile is obviously more promising, and Wang Yi has no worries and is not tempted.
"By the way, Sining, let's go and discuss the price of the office building where Xiaoi Robot is located. If we can buy it, we will buy it directly!"
Wang Yi thought of this: "We are short of office buildings in Shanghai, so we should acquire a few high-quality office buildings and make preparations in advance."
"Okay, Chairman!" Song Sining understood that Wang Yi's strategy of establishing R&D centers nationwide has begun to accelerate!
BAT and Huawei have established R&D centers across the country and even around the world.
The biggest advantage is that the industry is dispersed, so it can absorb talents from all over the country and enjoy preferential policies from various places.
The car matter was left to Song Sining, while Wang Yi called Wu Shuang and went straight to the management committee.
Wang Yi has established science and technology parks and industrial parks in Jeju and Magic Capital, and has acquired a large amount of residential land. Wang Yi has been in the imperial capital for so long, and it is time to take action.
After all, the current Xingyi Technology Park is not enough!
Seeing Wang Yi's arrival, Director Qin was in a good mood: "Come on, Director Wang, sit down quickly, you haven't been here for a while."
Now Director Qin, the more he looks at Wang Yi, the more he likes him: "I don't go to the Three Treasures Hall for anything. Tell me, what kind of support do you want this time?"
Wang Yi smiled, both of them were familiar with each other's temper.
In Director Qin's opinion, Wang Yi must have something to ask for when he came to visit.
In Wang Yi's view, as long as there is a reasonable demand and there are reasonable gambling restrictions, Director Qin will do his best to support it.
"To be honest, Xingyi Technology is developing too fast, but Xingyi Technology Park is almost saturated."
Director Qin nodded: "It's too small. In Jeju, you invested heavily in the construction of Meiyou Technology Park and Wujie Technology Park. In Daocheng, you invested in Xingyi Technology Daocheng R&D Center and Xingyi Smart Home Industrial Park. It should also be in the imperial capital.
Invest in a larger science and technology park! Of course, our imperial capital can also provide preferential policies that the local government can provide, but we have to explain what business we want to do."
Wang Yi breathed a sigh of relief. It seemed that Director Qin had been prepared:
"The headquarters of Xingyi Technology Group is in Imperial City. The headquarters of high-end industries such as semiconductors, mobile phone R&D, and tablet R&D are all in Imperial City. The same will be true for other high-end industry R&D centers in the future."
"For example, we have recruited more than 300 lidar R&D experts to develop lidar, but the R&D center is not enough."
"Lidar? This industry is good, it is considered a high-end technology, and the government has policy support."
Director Qin's eyes lit up and he became interested: "Let's do this. We will give you a piece of 500 acres of commercial land and you can develop it yourself."
"Okay." Wang Yi responded: "Director Qin, we still have Xingyi Real Estate!"
Crazy hint!
"Hahaha, I knew you said that!" Director Qin laughed: "The nearby 1,000 acres of residential land will be packaged for you at 20% off the market price."
"20% off, yes!"
After all, it is an imperial capital, and every inch of land is precious. Naturally, there is no way to offer ultra-low discounts of 40% off and 40% off like Jeju.
But even at a 20% discount, there is enough room for future appreciation. After all, it is a land near Zhongguancun.
By then, the 500-acre science and technology park will be completed and a large number of employees will settle in, creating income for Wang Yi and allowing employees to make money.
When employees make money, Xingyi Real Estate will build a thousand acres of surrounding residential land into luxury homes and sell them to employees!
Once the house was sold, not only did the employees earn back their money, but they also had to shoulder millions of dollars in loans. They had to work overtime and work harder to make money, and they didn't even dare to resign...
Wang Yi was silent: 'Who the hell designed this system? It is simply invincible!'
Seeing Wang Yi thoughtful, Director Qin said with a smile: "Of course, the five hundred acres of commercial land are not given for free. There are tax requirements, which will be written into the contract at that time."
"No problem." Wang Yi felt no pressure.
Director Qin always looked complicated when talking about betting.
The original Imperial City mobile phone factory was worth 1 billion and was given away to Wang Yi for free. He required mobile phone revenue to reach 10 billion within a year, otherwise he would have to pay 1.2 billion.
After a year of gambling, Wang Yi completed it in about a month!
Director Qin is very temperamental.
Later, the Xingyi wafer fab made a bet, saying that it would mass-produce the 40-nanometer process before the end of 2014. If mass production was successful, Wang Yi would be given a wafer fab.
If mass production fails, Wang Yida will lose money and buy the entire fab!
At present, it seems that there is hope that it can be realized, after all, there are still two years to go.
But the difficulties are not small. After all, the semiconductor field is difficult, very difficult.
SMIC has been working on 40nm for a long time.
Thinking of this, Director Qin couldn't help but said: "Director Wang, it has been three months since the first small factory building of your wafer fab was delivered? Isn't it that the second large factory building will be delivered soon?"
"Well, the first small factory has become a research and development factory. At present, the equipment has been put in place and verification tests of the 40-nanometer process are in progress."
"That's good. We still have a bet. I hope you can get 40 nanometers in the year after next, otherwise you will have to bleed a lot!"
"Haha, it won't take the next year. Maybe by the end of this year, Director Qin, you will have to prepare a second wafer fab for me!" Wang Yixiao said.
"At the end of this year? Can you handle the 40-nanometer process?" Director Qin was stunned, and then waved his hand: "Director Wang, I'm really not trying to hit you. This is unrealistic. It can't be so fast."
"Don't talk about the end of this year, even the end of next year, it will be difficult for you to get it done. It will be good if you can get 40nm mass production in the year after next."
"SMIC has a deeper foundation, more technical reserves, and more R&D personnel. It has been working on it for several years, but it has not yet developed 40 nanometers!"
"It's unrealistic for you to finish it in a few months, completely unrealistic!"
Wang Yi smiled, is it unrealistic?
If Mr. Hu hadn't led the team, it would have been impossible to do it.
But with Mr. Hu leading the team, everything is possible.
However, Wang Yi was too lazy to explain and simply said: "Director Qin, if we complete the 40nm process and achieve mass production by the end of next year, can the second wafer fab you provide be bigger?"
"Okay, if you complete the 40-nanometer process by the end of next year, my second wafer fab will give you a monthly production capacity of 50,000 wafers, which is twice that of the first wafer fab!"
"What if it is completed before the middle of next year?" Wang Yi continued to dig holes.
The current Xingyi wafer fab's three factories combined have a monthly production capacity of only 25,000 wafers, which is too small and completely insufficient.
Now that there was a chance to cause the imperial capital to bleed, Wang Yidou had to seize it.
There are not many opportunities to take advantage of big players.
"Middle of next year? Okay, if you can handle it, I'll give you a monthly production capacity of 75,000 pieces!"
"What if mass production starts before the end of this year?" Wang Yi continued to dig holes.
"At the end of this year? Impossible!" Director Qin laughed: "If you mass-produce 40 nanometers at the end of this year, and build your second wafer fab, I will help you achieve a monthly production capacity of 100,000 pieces!"
With a monthly production capacity of 100,000 pieces, it is a first-class large-scale wafer factory!
After deducting the scraps and counting the yield rate, a monthly output of 100,000 wafers can produce 65 million chips, which is 780 million chips a year!
As for Xingyi Technology, it can’t use so many chips?
That doesn’t matter, as long as the process is mastered and the production capacity is sufficient, you can do OEM work for your friends!
Wang Yi was overjoyed and quickly took out the agreement from his bag: "Director Qin, you are just talking nonsense, let's record it in black and white!"
Director Qin's mouth twitched: "..."
This kid has been ready for a long time? Just wait for him to get hooked?!
Chapter completed!