Information about the LC Pluto Myth!(1/2)
Related information about LC:
The Myth of Saint Seiya Pluto: The Lost Canvas" is written by Fumiori Teshiroki. The comic itself is excellent, with a total of more than 220 chapters in the main volume and a total of 25 volumes in single volumes.
After the completion, a total of 16 volumes of side leaflet comics were released, for a total of 41 volumes of comics, and they were animated in response to extremely high calls. If you were not good enough, you would not be able to do this.
First of all, the Myth of Pluto LC comic was popular in Japan and China, and it became very popular in China that year. However, the animation adapted from LC that did not sell well in Japan was very popular in both China and Japan.
The total sales of the 12 DVD volumes of LC Animation that year (one volume with 2 episodes) [in the first week] were 1800 for the two seasons since the second season was released in 2011.
Cumulative sales volume estimate for 2011 ↑. The cumulative average sales volume in the first quarter exceeded the breakeven line, so there was a second season. The sales volume in the second quarter was not as good as the first quarter, so there was no third season (picture below, first week of DVD volume)
The average sales volume is 1,300, and the cumulative volume in 2011 is 1,800.)
The copyright of LC's OVA animation is in the hands of TMS instead of Toei. TMS is not as wealthy as Toei, nor does it have the production experience of Saint Seiya. It is really a pity that it was not successful in crossing the river by feeling the stones. 12 volumes of BD (not DVD)
Among them, the [first week sales] of [a BD single volume] is also very bad compared to the [overall sales].
Let me give this person a message first. It is well-received and well-received. There are many works that are well-received but not well-received after being adapted into animations or films, which is normal. But to deny the excellence of the original work itself by using poor sales after adaptation is a shame.
January 16, 2018: A bonus for some idiot in the comments: The academic beauty line/capital breakage line used in general statistics for TV animation is generally around 2200-2800, although the average sales volume of Lc in two seasons is less than this standard (mainly
It was a loss in the second quarter),
But the sales volume in the first quarter is on this line (look at the picture carefully). Don’t be a fool and see me saying that the average volume in the first week of the two quarters is 1,300 and treat the average volume in the first week of the two quarters as the sales volume of the first quarter to yell about the first quarter.
Not enough to protect capital.
In addition, in fact, the costs and cost recovery methods of different works are different, so we cannot simply use one standard to measure it. When it comes to a specific animation, we need to analyze it in detail.
The fact that LC can produce a second season shows that the costs recovered from all aspects in the first season are enough to support TMS in producing a second season.
Otherwise, the second season will be like the third season with no sequel. The reason why the second season can be released is because the company has planned to release two seasons from the beginning. If it loses a lot in the first quarter, it will have to sell out the second season.
And carefully check out the difference between the average volume of the first week of the two seasons and the average volume of the first season.
Popular science refutes rumors: Saint Seiya Myth Lc, Saint Seiya SS, Saint Seiya G, GA, Saint Maiden, Saint Seiya nd, Saint Seiya Omega (Omega) are all entered into the official Japanese Saint Seiya website and included in the official Saint Seiya official history.
None of the orthodox Saint Seiya works in the timeline is fan fiction.
On the official historical timeline, LC and nd are two pre-jihadist histories that coexist side by side. The reason for the overlapping of space history divisions may be because the time traveler is a god, or it may be due to other reasons.
There is Avnir from the future in LC, but it is not stated that he comes from the era of Saori in SS, and his time travel also corrects the future to a certain extent so that LC is still in line with the history of SS.
The endings of both the main story and the side stories of the lc comics are connected with the ss. In the side stories comics, Shion was also resurrected with Saga and others as the underworld warriors and went to the sanctuary.
The official website of Saint Seiya Japan is opened: The official timeline is confirmed: the order is Saint Seiya Pluto Myth LC and Gaiden (the pre-Holy War recorded in history) - Saint Seiya G (contemporary Golden Saint Gaiden) - Saint Seiya SS (contemporary main story)
, Galactic War Chapter. Golden Zodiac Chapter, Poseidon Chapter, Pluto Hades Chapter) - Saint Seiya Golden Soul (at the same time as the Pluto Chapter) - Saint Seiya Pluto Myth ND (another story caused by historical time travel)
A Historical Holy War)—Saint Seiya Celestial World (only the sequel)—Saint Seiya Omega (Future Holy War). All are official canon.
In fact, the truth is very simple: the birth of each classic IP series is planned by a company and seeks cooperation from the author. Only such IP series can be published and serialized, officially released in single volumes, and included in the official history.
Axis, the right to produce animations and make figures,
Saint Dou Shoujo, G/GA, and LC are all planned works like this. None of this can be achieved by the comic book authors just asking for a "fan license" (there is no such thing). It can only be done based on commercial interests.
From a different perspective, the official will not characterize such works as fandom from the very beginning.
To put it bluntly, have you ever seen a company that serializes a fan, publishes a stand-alone book, and produces animation and figurines?
In other answers, Zhou Wenjun said that what Teyogi-sensei had obtained was "authorized by a fan", which can be said to be a slanderous and illogical accusation.
---Additional:---Since Zhou Hei went around slandering lc as a doujin, the Saint Seiya Chinese team also refuted him: The following is borrowed from the Chinese team’s answer [: Is lc a doujin? [Before asking this question, you must first clarify"
The concept of "doujin". Works serialized in commercial magazines cannot be called "doujin" under any circumstances.
Okada Teyogi and Hisori Takaga are both freelance creators contracted by Akita Shoten. They do not own the copyright of the Saint Seiya series, but their commercial works are derivatives of the same status, not fan fiction.]
["Both LC and ND lead to SS" is not a problem at all.] Lc is directly related to SS in terms of setting and plot. In LC Gaiden, even modern SS gold has appeared.
This chapter is not over yet, please click on the next page to continue reading! In addition, lc’s original comic series started in 2006, and is serialized by Akita Shoten. Each episode is on sale as scheduled.
Painting style. lc has always been proud of its excellent paintings, delicate and yet domineering style, which is talked about by lc fans. As one of lc’s biggest advantages, this respondent is naturally extremely unhappy as a LC pure black
, specially selected a few women's watches from dozens of volumes of comics and tens of thousands of paintings to prove that LC's painting style is not good, but unfortunately LC is indeed the best painting in all the Saint Seiya series.
Even the occasional running pattern is the best among several authors.
LC is a weekly serial with very tight painting time, but the overall painting quality has always maintained this level, even comparable to the quality of some monthly comic strips. The atmosphere is delicate and domineering, and the painting skills are obvious to all. In the works of Saint Seiya, his painting
Overall, it is the best one. Anyone who has seen it must know in their heart that the work itself is the biggest evidence of the excellence of painting.
No matter how you look at this, there is no way to deny it. If this person insists on criticizing such a painting as weird and poor, then I sincerely suggest that he go to an ophthalmologist for medical treatment quickly.
2. To say that LC is popular without any evidence is simply a slander by the Chinese people. If a work is not popular, it can be serialized in Japan for more than 220 chapters and end naturally, and be animated with great support, and it is an OVA (
The production cost is higher than that of ordinary TV animation).
Has a full 16-volume booklet of character profiles been published? Needless to say, only a work that is excellent enough can do this. This is absolutely objective evidence of the popularity of the work itself.
Although the disc sales of the animation itself have suffered due to the common problems of animation adaptations mentioned earlier and the weakening of bronze and OVA animations that will not be broadcast on TV stations, etc., the animation itself is very popular, and there are many works that are not very popular after being adapted into animation or film.
This is one of the normal situations of adaptation. It is foolish to deny the excellence of the original work by using the poor sales of the adapted animation.
And his so-called "LC's popularity is only criticized by the Chinese people" is tantamount to a disguised admission that he also knows that a large number of people are praising LC's popularity, but he does not want to admit it.
Baidu Encyclopedia explains the animation of LC as follows: The LC series has always been famous among fans for its magnificent stories and colorful characters. The animation has been very popular. The producers responded to the public's voice and decided to make it
animation.
3. It is said that LC's characters are copied from SS. LC has always been supported by many fans for its distinctive, vivid, three-dimensional characters and high-quality plot pictures. In the play, the author Fumiori Teshiroki has brought out each character to the fullest, and his character creation
His abilities should not be underestimated, and his charming characters are enthusiastically loved by many fans. The important reason why many people like LC is because each character in LC is extremely well-shaped, giving them a full-bodied image and personality that is different from SS.
Each has their own unique personality charm.
The ss golden generation and the LC golden generation are actually completely different characters.
Here are a few examples: 1 Cancer ss Cancer: A very evil person, arrogant and arrogant who takes pleasure in killing and playing with life, his hands are stained with the blood of innocent people, and in the end even the Holy Cloth voluntarily left his body and no longer recognized him as his master.
the wicked.
LC Cancer: Bold and open-minded, with a straightforward personality and a bit of a snarky temperament, hard-spoken and soft-hearted, grew up in a small ruined village and seen too many deaths, but became stronger and kind-hearted at heart, unwilling to see unnecessary deaths, has an approachable and approachable feeling, and simply relies on everything he does.
Pu is good at protecting his companions.
2 Pisces SS Pisces: Extraordinarily beautiful. In the animation, he is more concerned about his beauty (in the comics, it is just beauty). Even though he knows the true face of the Pope, he still swears allegiance. He believes that strength is justice, but at the same time, he also longs for peace.
LC Pisces: She is beautiful, but she doesn’t like others talking about her beauty. She values her fists more than her appearance. She looks cold but is actually gentle. Because she has poisonous blood in her body, she is afraid that her companions will be hurt by her poisonous blood, so she is willing to kill her companions in order to protect them.
Isolate myself from others and live in tenderness and loneliness.
3 Leo ss Leo: A passionate and impulsive adult warrior with a sense of justice. Due to his brother's incident, his character has become dull and depressed for a long time. He is righteous and brave, and has the highest loyalty to Athena.
LC Leo: Still a child, lively, cheerful, confident and optimistic, with a bit of childishness, the youngest Golden Saint, a genius fighting boy, with the unique innocence of children, which is occasionally revealed inadvertently during battle. I believe that everything is possible, and I have
Huge potential, chasing his father.
4 Gemini ss Gemini: Garen, who had a relatively evil personality in the early stage and was domineering and persistent. He was dissatisfied with his brother and the Sanctuary's ideas at first. He instigated his brother Saga to launch a rebellion against the Sanctuary. He was also the initiator of the war between Poseidon and Athena.
Later, he was inspired by Athena and was willing to sacrifice.
LC Gemini: Being discriminated against due to the unknown prophecy, feeling inferior, initially willing to be his brother's shadow and trusting him, but hurt because his brother fell into darkness, decided to turn into an evil ghost, and personally killed his brother who fell into evil ways, with cruelty
Train Pegasus in a certain way and always stand on the side of justice.
5 Scorpio ss Scorpio: Mature and stable, with his own opinions and ideas. Loyal and righteous in his heart. lc Scorpio: Suffering from heart disease, slightly cynical character, enjoying a limited life to his heart's content, and having child-like innocence and frankness, which is lc Athena's.
The first friend is looking forward to meeting a goal that will make him burn out his life.
6 Virgo ss Virgo: Sad for the misfortune of all living beings, and does not hesitate to join the war for all living beings. LC Virgo: Blind, often feeling the pain of living beings, practicing hard for all living beings, but unable to empathize with the pain.
Unable to own his own pain, he did not decide whether to join the holy war before enlightenment.
This chapter is not finished yet, please click the next page to continue reading the exciting content! 6 Aries, SS Aries Shiang and LC Aries Shiang are the same person, so naturally they have to keep the same personality as ss Aries.
7 Libra ss Libra Tonghu and lc Libra Tonghu are the same person, so naturally they have to keep the same personality as ss Libra. What do you mean by "not even changing the nickname of Tiger"? How stupid can you say such a thing?
Can you please make it clear that they are actually the same person? It's not like that even if you are smart.
8 lc Pluto Pegasus and ss Pluto Pegasus, let’s not talk about them. Same as above. Originally they are the same two people as Pegasus Pluto in nd. It’s really mind-boggling. The rest of them are the same as above and skipped. Even if they have some similarities with the ss characters
People with similar human characteristics are still completely different people. Please understand, even if you are drawing a fan, using original characters is not called copying the character. Drawing the same original character and creating your own personality is called OOC.
You have to ask Lao Che if you can adapt the characters from the original work, including the holy clothes and moves! Faced with such bright and diverse characters, this person put a general personality sack on each character, such as "
In addition to being "enthusiastic" and "gentle", coupled with some things that normal people can see, Teyogi's tribute to SS is limited to the setting of the positions and relationships between the characters, so he criticized it as copying the SS character setting.
No matter what your character actually is, a group of people with such huge contrasts will still classify you according to the general method. You can forcefully identify two people who are completely different from each other and label them as the same person by finding a certain similarity in their humanity.
I say this is a copy of the character. I don’t know what to say, and I feel like I’m losing my mind.
In addition, Pluto and Pegasus and others in LC and ND are obviously the same characters, but they can be said to be copied characters. It is really a mind-blowing operation.
Once again, the characterization of Lc and SS is actually completely different.
Please make it clear, even if you are drawing a fan, using original characters is not called copying the character! Drawing the same original character but also creating your own personality is called OOC. As a serialized work that has been officially authorized, can I adapt the original characters on my own?
You have to ask Mr. Kurumada!
ps: In fact, Saints are warriors who fight for the earth and justice. Whether they are SS or G, GA or LC, or Saint Seiya, as long as they are on the decent side, they actually have many similar and interoperable human traits.
But their own uniqueness makes them each independent, distinct and vivid even though they have such commonalities.
To be continued...