Book Friends [Heart of Nirvana]: Discussion of the Prediction Paradox (Multiple Discussion)(1/2)
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Title: There is a paradox in predicting the future. If you can predict what will happen in the next five minutes, then you can predict...
The poster, [Nirvana Heart] posted on 2007-10-2612:49:45 |
There is a paradox in predicting the future. If you can predict what will happen in the next five minutes, then you can predict what will happen in the next ten minutes that you can predict in the next five minutes, and so on, you can predict everything in the future. (I don’t know if I made it clear). So what can be predicted will not be just five minutes, but the calculation volume is very large. I remember that Wang Jinkang or Liu Cixin had a science fiction novel that is like this. I don’t know how heaven solves this problem?
1st Floor, [Seeing the Ghosts] published on 2007-10-2614:20:04
Predicting things in the next 5 minutes is just about knowing what happened at that time, but it does not mean that you can know what you predicted in your mind at that time. It is like watching a movie that only has verbal dialogue and body movements, but no psychological description and psychological dialogue. Therefore, the predictive ability only allows you to know what you said and did after 5 minutes, but you do not have the ability to read the mind to understand what you predicted in your mind at that time.
2nd Floor, [Nirvana Heart] posted on 2007-10-270:03:49 | Delete posts | Add essence
The problem is, if you are predicting what will happen in ten minutes and making records in five minutes, then can you continue to predict?
3rd Floor, [Superman Generation] published on 2007-10-272:16:30 | Delete posts | Add essence
There is no way, this is really not strictly scrutinized, but since it is not science fiction, don't worry too much.
Also: I have an idea. If you always predict that you are predicting what will happen ten minutes later and making records, then you will only do one thing in your life - making records, and the content of the record must be "I will record ten minutes later and ten minutes later and fifteen minutes later and twenty minutes later and twenty minutes later." It seems that you will record forever, infinite loop, so what is the meaning of your life? So what is said upstairs is not true, because no one will sit there and write constantly for the rest of his life.
4th floor, [Lai Changyi] posted on 2007-10-278:39:21|Delete posts|Add to add essence
Haha, interesting discussion
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5th Floor, [I Love - Reading] Posted on 2007-10-2714:49:56 | Delete posts | Add essence
"I will record in five minutes and then ten minutes and then fifteen minutes and then twenty minutes and then...what will happen."
Dizzy...
6th Floor, [Yan Luoshui] posted on 2007-10-2719:37:38 | Delete the post | Add essence
Paradox, it seems that the author just sees and hears, and cannot know what he is thinking, so I think the author's topic is not valid
7th Floor, [Qianmian Shuai Mushroom] posted on 2007-10-2813:59:30 | Delete posts | Add essence
Prediction is just about understanding what you want to know, not all the details in the next 5 minutes.
In other words, the protagonist just needs to understand something related to the plot development of the novel.
Online literature does not need to go into any depth, after all, it is not about learning.
The so-called prediction ability is just for the development of the plot, and it is just an opportunity.
8th floor, [Ghost Eye Leaf] posted on 2007-10-293:12:44 | Delete posts | Add essence
It seems that LZ even knows what the paradox is!
What you mean by infinite prediction is just a bug
Let me give you a simple example. If a person can do at least 10 things in the next second, then the probability of recording the prediction is 1/10 and 5 minutes is 300 seconds.
Then the content that can predict the next 5 to 10 minutes will be 1/10 to 1/10 to 300th power
That is, as time goes by, the probability of infinitely increasing to 0, how can it satisfy the event mentioned by LZ? After all, the probability is so low that it can be ignored directly.
Back to the topic about paradox This means that no matter which solution you choose to perform, you will always get the same result or the same effect.
9th floor, [billhum] posted on 2007-10-295:00:30 | Delete posts | Add essence
If the content of the prediction is so accurate that it can know the essence of things or living things (thinking/consciousness/basic activists), it is not a prediction, and it cannot be explained with a scientific view~~~~Floor 10th floor
10th floor, [¢博のののち] published on 2007-10-2911:24:48 | Delete posts | Add essence
By the way, this is about to discuss the future you see is just one of many futures...
If the prediction that what happens in the future does not happen, then the future will be avoided by the current protagonist.
In other words, the protagonist's prediction failed on the other hand?
In other words, if something happens in the future, then can it prove that the protagonist's prediction is successful?
I think not many people care about this...
That is, the text version of Ghost Eye on the 11th floor is explained, which means that the upcoming high-probability event has been changed to a low-probability event by the protagonist...
Ah, I don’t want this anymore, my head hurts, so it’s better to read books.
11th Floor, [Seal of Wind] published on 2007-10-2912:14:34 | Delete the post | Add the essence
I remember the ending of that novel seems to have thought too much and died? My brain crashed.
12th Floor, [Swords come out of Kunlun Bloody Ocean] Posted on 2007-10-2915:25:16 | Delete posts | Add essence
It's too strong, so there's no need to over-examination of these things. After all, we're not writing books. All we have to do is to be too obsessed with the deadbeat. It takes a long time to discuss such details, longlongago.
13th Floor, [therainlover] posted on 2007-10-2915:38:56 | Delete posts | Add essence
In fact, this so-called paradox will only fall into a dead cycle. First of all, you need to know what the purpose of predicting this behavior is. It is to know in advance before things happen so that as an avoidance, you can be mentally prepared even if you cannot reach the minimum limit. If a person really has the superpower to predict the future for five minutes. Even if he is determined to predict the future every five minutes, then, in the first cycle, he predicts what he is doing in the next five minutes, that is, making predictions, predicting what he is predicting. For the next five minutes, then what he is doing in the next five minutes? BINGO, he is still predicting, predicting again.
There will be another five minutes. This person is making predictions, right. The problem is that there is only one prediction result, that is, this SB is predicting, and you know that it is a prediction that is standing on the spot without predicting the results. This vicious cycle will only stop when another person greets him at some point and interrupts his prediction. It is to press the "Pause" key in his prediction loop. I hope that by that time, this SB will not have fallen to the point of being punished. If this SB really finds a no-man to predict, then we can only pray for the SB's behavior of this SB
14th Floor, [Yinhan Distance] Posted on 2007-10-302:08:03 | Delete posts | Add essence
==Reply to the poster==>> It is just predicting what you are doing in 5 minutes, and you cannot add "thing to do" to the forecast, because you can only predict and cannot change. Therefore, the poster's reasoning is not valid
15th Floor, [Yinhan Distance] Posted on 2007-10-302:15:23 | Delete posts | Add essence
Just like the brothers on the 11th and 16th floors said the interference factor
The longer the time, the more disturbing factors, because the process of predicting things takes time. This time has taken part in part of the future you predict. In the end, you want to predict the next future for another period of time, so there are not many things left left. In other words, your life process is only 1/3, so it is better not to predict. It is also a brain-consuming task.
16th Floor, [A Mouse] posted on 2007-10-309:30:02 | Delete posts | Add essence
The poster's words reminded me of "Predicting the Future" filmed by Nicholas. At the beginning, the protagonist's confession also said that he only predicted the future 2 (forget the exact one, ms is 2) minutes, but later it had exceeded 2 minutes, which was an infinite overlap of 2 minutes! I saw that it was very cool afterwards! As soon as I predicted to die, I immediately pushed to start over and seek a way to survive in the dead state!
17th Floor, [Crazy / Laughing] posted on 2007-10-3011:18:34 | Delete posts | Add essence
=Reply=Floor 16, as the 22nd floor said, foreseeing that the protagonist will overlap in infinite 2 minutes in the future, but it is just not the biggest paradise. Maybe as the 10th floor said, just foreseeing that the protagonist only needs to understand things related to the plot development of the novel, or just an auxiliary to the development of the novel!!
It depends on how heaven is written.
18th Floor, [Aolong Xiaoyao] published on 2007-10-3023:29:17 | Delete posts | Add essence
If you can predict the future, then when the things you predict will happen, the probability of your choices will change......... If you continue to cycle like this...... Sweat~~ If you use the parallel world theory to explain it, you will have N more parallel worlds... Sweat~~~~~~~!!!
19th Floor, [Aolong Xiaoyao] posted on 2007-10-3023:31:43 | Delete posts | Add essence
Indeed, there is no need to delve into it. If you continue to delve into any so-called truth, you must have a correct probability... There is no certain correctness, and there is no certain error. It is a matter of probability...
20th Floor, [Knife, Sword, Gun] published on 2007-10-3114:02:48 | Delete the post | Add the essence
I also think this is a paradox! Let's give a simple example:
What I said below is true.
What I said above is false!
Then what I said is true? This is the paradox!
21st Floor, [Yan Daolong] published on 2007-11-112:15:53 | Delete the post | Add the essence
I remembered a movie, played by Tom Cruise, and forgot what it is, it also has a predictive function.
22nd Floor, [Beef Gnome] posted on 2007-11-320:24:47 | Delete posts | Add essence
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23rd Floor, [Si & Yu] posted on 2007-11-47:25:59 | Delete posts | Add essence
Talent
24th Floor, [Ye Juan Ye Shu] posted on 2007-11-58:14:28 | Delete the post | Add essence
Can you predict, will you predict?
It's funny. Do you think you have to continue living this life after reading the predictions of a person's life?
It's so far away that you can't tell me what happened today, but you can remember ten years ago.
What's more, it's not that easy to remember in the next sixty years!
And you won’t be tired if you push it back every five minutes`
It seems that there is a movie called Meet the Future. The movie seems to be the same as the book by Dear Lai! It is a very awesome movie!!
Dear Lai will come back to vote for you in the evening Hey I am a Luohua HOHO``
25th Floor, [Monthly Building - Hate is hard to repay] Posted on 2007-11-59:28:54 | Delete posts | Add essence
==Reply to the 29th floor==>>I remember a Nicholas Cage movie that can also predict the next 2 minutes!
26th Floor, [Dodil] posted on 2007-11-514:45:50 | Delete posts | Add essence
I don't understand, I really don't understand... In this way, I can see through life? ~~
27th Floor, [Book Friend 413225537] published on 2007-11-518:51:21 | Delete the post | Add the essence
I'm dizzy~ I've watched you keep talking for 5 minutes
28th Floor, [Tianwai Shenlong] published on 2007-11-519:16:45 | Delete posts | Add essence
I also saw the story told by the poster in the science fiction world. His ability can predict what will happen thirty minutes later.
If you want to know if it will rain in ten minutes, you can predict the prediction in five minutes. If you predict the result of this incident in five minutes, you will know now.
However, the calculation volume is too large, and the little boy with prediction ability in the story later died of exhaustion.
29th Floor, [Milan No. 7] Posted on 2007-11-520:52:05 | Delete posts | Add essence
Reply to the 29th floor, Tom Cruise's "Minority Report", it seems to be this movie.
30th Floor, [hallow?sum] posted on 2007-11-522:57:11|Delete posts|Add to add essence
To be continued...