Shade recalled:

"That's true. Well, is it possible?"

"It's impossible. They won't come over no matter what. If you can call those old guys over, why do you think I'm still investigating almost alone?"

Mr. Bernhard seemed to know what Shade was thinking, and Shade did think so.

"Well, if you help me think of a solution, this time it will be very troublesome. Let me tell you."

Shade pointed upward:

"Not even the Five Gods Church."

Then he pointed upward again:

"Although I can do it, I can't defeat it alone. (Note)"

"You really want to do this?"

Mr. Bernhard once again miraculously fully understood what Shade meant. He did not ask why the "ceiling" of the Orthodox Church was not working, but frowned and thought carefully for a while:

"Your courage is really terrifying. It's not impossible, but it's very dangerous."

He also pointed upward:

"If you succeed, it means you are facing it head on. Are you sure you can do it?"

"You can give it a try, but what I'm worried about is"

Shade pointed upward again:

"This will involve you. After all, it was you who gave me the method."
Chapter completed!