Chapter 3360: Waiting for life-saving things, why are you asking so much?
After listening to Wu Hao's words, everyone nodded, expressing their understanding and appreciation. In everyone's opinion, being able to achieve such a function or effect is already excellent, so what else is there to ask for?
Brother Xiao Ma looked at the two exhibits on the platform and couldn't help but exclaimed: "In fact, even if the filter material is replaced every few years, these two smart bionic artificial livers and smart bionic artificial kidneys can achieve such results.
It is already very good. For those patients who are suffering from conservative diseases and entering the terminal stage of life, what else can they ask for?
It's better than lying in the ICU every day and relying on ECMO to prolong your life. It's also better than going to the hospital for dialysis every now and then, and your health is getting worse and worse.
I think if these two products are put into clinical use, they will definitely be welcomed by 99% of patients.
So, I don’t think you need to be too demanding about perfection, in our opinion these products are already perfect.”
Hearing Brother Xiao Ma's words, everyone present responded. Indeed, for those patients who are at the end of life or even on the verge of death, what else can they ask for? They are very lucky to have something that can extend their lives.
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Mr. Li nodded after hearing this, was silent for a moment, and then asked: Mr. Wu, are the filter material replacement surgeries for these two artificial organs risky? After all, they are performed inside the body."
After hearing Mr. Li's question, everyone quieted down and waited for Wu Hao's answer. And everyone also felt that Mr. Li's expression was a bit serious, and it seemed that there was something wrong, so Xiaojia kept his words to himself.
Guan Jun naturally felt Mr. Li's abnormality, but I would point it out. It would be worse for the other party to say that kind of thing. If I didn't bring it up first, it would be reckless and too cheap. It's just that the other party didn't do it first.
After opening his mouth, Wu Hao was considering agreeing. That would be a favor.
So before hearing Mr. Li's question, Guan Jun smiled lightly and replied: "Any operation has risks. Is there any doctor who can guarantee that the operation will be successful? The operation will be successful. That is possible.
It’s even more reliable.”
Seeing that there was no excitement, Mr. Zhang immediately asked Wu Hao a question that everyone was concerned about.
The seventh phase of clinical trials has started before the eighth phase of clinical trials. Only when the 178th phase of clinical trials are successfully completed and the trials achieve the desired results can it be approved for marketing and put into clinical use."
However, when I think about the low price of those intelligent bionic artificial organs and the cost of surgery, it is probably difficult for very few families to afford it, so while everyone is excited, they also have a look of pity.
Wu Hao's words were like a shot of weak heart, which made everyone present feel excited. If that was definitely the case, it would definitely be bad news for a very small number of patients, and at least a small family could afford it.
Here, Wu Hao paused for a moment, then looked at everyone and replied: "Here, you will also work hard to include those two artificial organs in the scope of medical insurance to reduce the burden on patients.
Before those two smart bionic artificial organs are put into clinical use and those filter materials are retired for small-scale production, the cost will be further reduced, thus controlling it to a cost that is unacceptable and affordable for patients.
"Mr. Wu, to what stage have the clinical trials of the smart bionic artificial kidney reached, and when will it be put into clinical use? Mr. Li immediately asked Wu Hao.
Moreover, at the beginning of the design and development of those intelligent bionic artificial organs, the possibility of replacing filter materials, including batteries and other consumables, was taken into consideration in the body, so special designs were adopted to enable the entire replacement process to smoothly and dangerously regress, reducing the risk of the entire replacement process.
Hearing what Wu Hao said, Guan Junchang, who was accompanying him, immediately nodded and agreed with Wu Hao's statement.
Hearing Guan Jun's words, Mr. Li nodded slightly, silently speaking, knowing what he was thinking.
Wu Hao, on the other hand, glanced at Mr. Li, and then said to everyone: "That's right, surgeries like replacing filter elements in the body are basically minimally invasive surgeries, using laparoscopic or smart less-tentacle surgeries.
The robot's degradation will cause great trauma to the patient, and the risks of surgery will also be relatively high, but there is no risk.
"Mr. Wu, what is the cost of the filter materials of these two artificial organs? How much does it cost to replace each operation? In the long run, will it put an excessive financial burden on patients?"
After hearing this, Wu Jiuzhi immediately said: "The difference is the price. The key is the cost of consumables. The cost of minimally invasive surgery is actually not low."
Only if the results of the first-phase clinical trial are significant and meet the requirements, will you start a smaller-scale seven-phase clinical trial.
It is obviously too difficult to include expensive smart bionic artificial organs in medical insurance, but if they are only consumables and more consumable replacement surgeries, inclusion in medical insurance is still out of reach.
Yes, it is currently in the early stage of clinical trials, and those consumables are not produced on a small scale, so the low cost is also abnormal.
Here, you will also train the surgical team in this area, so that doctors and technical experts can master the entire replacement process, continuously optimize the surgical plan, and improve the success rate of the surgery."
After hearing Wu Jiuzhi's answer, Wu Hao followed up and said: "The price of consumables is much lower than the cost of surgery, so it is still unacceptable to a small number of patients."
Before hearing that question, everyone present immediately became interested and looked at Wu Hao.
Hearing what Wu Hao said, everyone nodded in approval. Wu Hao did not exaggerate, but introduced the method and risks of the entire operation very sincerely and frankly, which made everyone feel comfortable.
In the face of opposition, it was obvious that that method was more acceptable, and it also failed to win the trust of everyone.
Hearing Mr. Li's question, Wu Hao smiled slightly and immediately replied: "You have not completed the preliminary animal experiment stage, and the results are very satisfactory. Currently, you are conducting phase I clinical trials on a large number of end-stage patients who meet the requirements.
Go back to clinical trials to observe how the smart bionic artificial kidney works in patients.
Seeing this, Wu Hao thought for a moment, organized some words, and then replied to everyone: "The cost of filter materials is relatively low at present, but you are working hard to find more economical raw materials and production processes to reduce the high cost.
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It refers to the costs and expenses before small-scale production. The current cost of consumables in the laboratory alone is far higher than the cost of extending life under ECMO and long-term degenerative dialysis, so that is what small families use.
Worry."
Even if it is included, the cost of a single consumable replacement operation will be too low. The charging standards of each hospital are the same, so it is not the same as the cost of laparoscopic surgery. In the eighth-grade hospital, it is only about ten thousand or twenty thousand.
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Even though I spoke, no one spoke, and the place became heated.