Wu Hao thought for a while after hearing this and said: "It would be good if the country could take the lead, but the country plays more of a regulating and guiding role, and we still need to work hard on other things.
To put it bluntly, it is a question of interests. As long as there are sufficient interests, this project can be advanced.
However, the investment in chip manufacturing is huge, the uncertainty is too great, and it is difficult to see benefits in a short period of time, so I am afraid not many companies are really willing to join in."
"You are right, companies focus on interests, but in addition to interests, they also have great justice and responsibilities.
Of course, if you want to advance this project, you still have to rely on market operations. So my suggestion is to bring in more forces to jointly build our domestic ASMIER.
I believe that all parties involved in this project will be interested, especially those companies that are suffering from chip difficulties and intend to develop the chip industry.
Such as Hwei, Hcom, Dajiang, as well as other mobile device manufacturers, communication equipment companies, and some other Internet companies, such as us, and our old rival Penguin.
Even the state will get involved. After all, if we can develop and manufacture our own photolithography machines, it will also be of great positive significance to national strategic security."
Wu Hao heard this and joked with a smile: "Why, are you willing to let Penguin, your old rival, participate?"
Hahaha, in fact, our two families are just competing for interests, and Xiao Ma and I still have a very good relationship in private.
Lao Ma said with a smile: "Nowadays, all major Internet companies are undergoing transformation, especially some large-scale Internet companies. If there is no hardware support, then Internet companies alone are like castles in the air, and their ability to resist risks is too poor.
For example, the cloud services currently provided by several of our major Internet companies, can you say that it is just the Internet?
In addition, autonomous driving, which is now popular among major companies, cannot be supported by just bare-headed system software.
Walking on two legs is always safer than walking on one leg."
Wu Hao nodded when he heard this and said: "I have no objection. With so many giants joining, this project will run more smoothly.
But with so many companies joining, who is dominant?"
Hearing what Wu Hao said, Lao Ma smiled and said: "Market-led, technology-led, value-led. Rather than wrangling in this aspect, it would be better for no one to reach out and leave it to more professional talents to manage it."
Wu Hao thought for a while and said: "To be honest, in this regard, I have thought about doing this project alone."
"I'm not surprised that you have this idea, and I think you also have such ability. But I think there is strength in numbers, and it is better for everyone to work together on some things.
Let’s take a step back, even if you develop a photolithography machine that can produce advanced process chips, do you think you can withstand such great internal and external pressure?
Young people can never make enough money, so they have to understand the pros and cons.
As an important technology provider and heavy participant, as well as the initiator of the project, you have the capital to sit down with other participants to negotiate conditions, and you can also decide the direction of this project. Do you understand what I mean?" Lao Ma.
He said with a smile that in this regard, he really felt that Wu Hao was a young man.
He did not hesitate to give advice to this young man whom he admired very much.
Wu Hao nodded and said: "I understand what you mean, that's why I will talk about this matter at the technology promotion meeting.
If I didn’t have this plan, I wouldn’t have to say this at all. Of course, we still need to think carefully about how to promote this project.”
Lao Ma smiled and nodded: "I believe that representatives from all parties are already on their way to Anxi. Even those who haven't come should still make a call. In this regard, you can have someone communicate with them first and explore their opinions.
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In this way, the Wuzhen Summit is about to take place, and I can take this opportunity to invite everyone over and let's have a good chat.
I heard that I sent you an invitation last year, but you didn’t come. Come over this year and let’s have a drink and have a good chat.”
"You have a bunch of Internet tycoons talking and laughing together, so there's no need for me to join in. I can't join the circle, and I can't get in." Wu Hao said with a smile.
"Hahaha, who says you can't join the circle? The virtual world and intelligent system of your Haoyu Technology are booming. Who dares to say that you are not a giant in the Internet field.
I'll ask someone to send you another invitation. Come over quickly, many people want to get to know you." Lao Ma clicked in the video and said with a smile.
Wu Hao laughed heartily when he heard this: "When you say that, I don't even dare to go there."
Ha ha ha ha……
"call ended!"
"Sir, you were on the phone just now. Mr. Tao Zhengyang, Mr. Tao, Mr. Tang Fusheng from B Asia Automobile, and Director Wang Lianggong from the Bureau of Science and Industry all called."
"Got it." Wu Hao responded, then smiled at Zhang Jun and Yang Fan who were sitting next to him: "Look, the phone calls have come over."
Zhang Jun said with a smile: "Tao Zhengyang probably came for the 3D full-curved screen and wireless remote charging technology, and Tang Fusheng probably came for the third-generation new lithium battery. As for Director Zhao of the Science and Technology Bureau, I think it is because
It comes from six-sided honeycomb compound eye lens technology and miniature multi-tentacle robot.
Of course, these three companies may also be interested in our composite lens processing technology and photolithography machines, just like Lao Ma.
What, are you really going to let these companies and capital forces participate in this project like Lao Ma said?"
"Lao Ma is right. We are weak on our own. Even if we build a photolithography machine, it will be difficult to withstand internal and external pressures. So we still need more forces to participate and share the pressure for us.
But we have to carefully consider who should be allowed to participate." Wu Hao thought deeply.
Yang Fan, who was sitting aside, spoke at this time: "I am not optimistic about the participation of these capitals. To put it bluntly, they are seeking profits. The investment in this project is huge, and it is difficult to see benefits in a short period of time. This is inconsistent with the concepts and purposes of these capitals.
Violate.
Although they will be active for the sake of immediate interests, once they are involved, it will be an unstable factor. Who can guarantee that they will not suddenly change their minds and affect the progress of our project.
It is said that under the influence of these capitals, this project will deteriorate over time. It will become a tool for these capitals to make money, and the original meaning of the project will be lost.”
"You're right, so we have to carefully consider letting those people come in." Wu Hao said with a smile: "Besides, adding capital is not necessarily a bad thing. In the initial research and development stage, we do need more people."
funds.
And compared with the various demands of other companies, the demands of capital and the purpose from beginning to end are very pure, which is money and interests.