But we not only provide technology and people, but also provide money, and 20% is not much. Song Chunming retorted.
Wu Hao, on the other hand, smiled slightly and said: "We have also provided technology, people, and even money.
There are many companies that want to join this project this time, so we don’t have many shares, so we can’t give you that many shares.
Of course, unless you can invest sufficient funds, you can hold more shares."
Hearing Wu Hao's words, Song Chunming shook his head. They are just scientific research institutions, and they need to apply for the required funds from above. Even if they apply, they don't know whether they can apply for it.
Even if the application is received, it is impossible to come up with more than one billion. It does not mean that there is no money, but that it does not meet the relevant regulations.
Besides, this project is obviously initiated by the private sector. It is best to try not to let state-owned capital invest, otherwise there may be some troubles. For example, if their lithography machines and chips are to be exported abroad in the future, if they have this background,
It is easy to be contradicted by some countries.
Of course, this is not fear, and there is no need to be afraid. No matter what happens in private, at least you must maintain a good image on the surface.
This is a method used by Western capitalists to dress themselves up as elegant gentlemen, but privately they are sneaky, sanctimonious bastards.
Hearing what Wu Hao said, Song Chunming was a little discouraged and said, "Then how much can you give me?"
Wu Hao also slightly stretched out two fingers and said: "Two percent."
What! Song Chunming, and even the other personnel from the Microelectronics Research Institute sitting around him, were surprised, and then they all showed angry expressions.
Wu Hao, you are not sincere anymore. Song Chunming said with a serious face. He did not call him Xiao Wu this time, but directly called him by his name. It can be seen that he was also a little angry.
Wu Hao, on the other hand, smiled and shook his head and said: "On the contrary, I think we are sincere. Let's not talk about anything else. Let's talk about the value of these two percent shares. Do you know how much it is worth?
This project started with an investment of 10 billion, but from this perspective, this 2% is worth 200 million. This does not count the subsequent additional investment. We initially plan that the entire project will be between 30 billion and 50 billion.
Including the entire industrial chain including photolithography machine manufacturing factories and upstream related component factories, as well as several downstream chip foundries.
Preliminary estimates indicate that when fully completed, the annual output value will exceed tens of billions.
In this case, do you think this two percent is still less?"
After hearing his words, everyone present could not help but open their mouths.
this……
Between 30 billion and 50 billion, the annual output value is over tens of billions, so this 2% is very valuable.
When thinking of this, many people's eyes became hot.
But Song Chunming snorted coldly, then glared at Wu Hao and said: "It's such a big cake. The project hasn't been finalized yet, but you just made this cake so huge.
Aren’t you afraid that if it’s too big, the cake will burst?”
Haha, Wu Hao said with a smile: "Although it is a bit exaggerated, it is true. This is what we have discussed carefully. Besides, if a project like this does not reach tens of billions, how can we see any movement?
What we lack is not just a photolithography machine, but the entire industry related to the photolithography machine and even the entire chip chain.
We are very optimistic about this field and are willing to invest in it.”
Oh? When Song Chunming heard this, he looked at him with a playful smile and said: "Don't think I don't know, but you have already developed the core technology of photonic chips. At this time, you are fooling so many people into investing in traditional lithography machines. What are you doing?
What the hell are you planning?"
Wu Hao was not surprised that Song Chunming knew this, because he had mentioned the photonic chip technology in advance at a new technology seminar, and had also demonstrated it at the previous Civil-Military Technology Integration Exchange Exhibition in Beijing.
As a key domestic research institution and expert in the field of microelectronics and chips, Song Chunming knows this is not surprising.
So thinking of this, Wu Hao nodded and shook his head and said: "Photonic chip technology has made progress, but it cannot completely replace existing chips.
First of all, although the core technology of photonic chips has achieved a breakthrough, it does not mean that photonic chips can be developed immediately.
Even if it is developed, it cannot be put into use immediately. Even if it is put into use, it cannot be popularized in a short period of time.
I'm afraid it will take a long time to popularize such a cutting-edge technology that spans the ages.
Therefore, during this period of time, traditional chips will still occupy the mainstream market."
After hearing what he said, Song Chunming and others couldn't help but nodded, agreeing with his statement.
Indeed, photonic chips and photonic computers will be a new generation of computer technology. If developed, they will first be used in important fields and be used as strategic resources. It will be impossible to popularize them in a short time.
Seeing everyone nodding, Wu Hao continued: "Secondly, the manufacturing technology of photonic chips is not yet mature. Even if it is developed, it will probably take a period of time to explore, improve and optimize to create a photonic chip that can be used commercially.
Secondly, the structure of photonic chips makes it difficult to apply them to microelectronic devices.
I don’t know the future, but for now, it is basically impossible to put it into a traditional smartphone or new smart AR glasses.
For now, even if this kind of photonic chip is developed, the most suitable ones are large supercomputers and large server groups and hosts.
In addition to this, its application is also restricted by energy consumption and various packaging processes.
Moreover, the new products we create are not only core processors, but also various other chips. These chips cannot all be suitable for this kind of photonic chip, right?
How can you kill a chicken with a bull's knife?"
You kid always has so many reasons. Song Chunming leaned on his chair and said helplessly.
Wu Hao, on the other hand, smiled and shook his head: "This is not a reason, but a fact. Photonic chips are good, but they are not omnipotent. They also have their limitations.
Secondly, as I said before, even if the core technology of photonic chips has achieved a breakthrough, it is basically impossible to develop it and put it into commercial use in a short time.
Therefore, traditional chips will remain the mainstream for a long time to come. And even if photonic chips begin to be commercialized and popularized, traditional chip technology will not be eliminated.
It is precisely after seeing this that everyone is so interested in this project and does not hesitate to invest a lot of money.
Let’s not talk about anything else, let’s just say that the vision of these familiar bosses is always worth trusting.”