It's really hard to tell what's right or wrong about Sarutobi Hiruzen, because different standpoints have different perspectives on the problem.
But now that Shisui has asked, Hahara is willing to have a little discussion with him, and also plans to give Shisui some 'advanced' knowledge points.
"Shisui, when looking at the problem, the first thing to consider is your position.
The world is very complex, and good and evil are never so absolute, because everyone has their own position.
Always remember that the world is never the black and white you imagine, because it is probably a delicate gray.
So when we think about problems, we can only do so in a more comprehensive way."
Habara looked at Shisui with a smile, and then he slowly asked as he walked.
"If you look at it from Hiruzen Sarutobi's perspective, he is indeed right, because Konoha really had no chance to recover after the Second Ninja War.
Soon he was forced to start the Third Ninja War, and this time the Ninja War was even more cruel. Konoha was jointly besieged by the four major ninja villages.
Although Konoha won in the end, it was just a miserable victory. After all, Konoha's foundation was almost completely wiped out.
Even in the final negotiation, Konoha did not ask for anything from the Tsuchikage. Of course, one thing cannot be avoided here.
That is, our Hokage probably hoped that the Tsuchikage would keep these supplies and fight with Kumogakure, but in the end it backfired."
On the surface, the Third War was the siege of Konoha by the four great ninja villages, but in fact they were not of the same mind at all.
The most typical examples are Ye Cang and the third generation Raikage.
Ye Cang was sent to Kirigakure Village by Rasa, the newly appointed Kazekage, to stabilize the situation, and in order to have the energy to deal with Iwagakure.
Although Hahara is really curious as to why two shinobi villages, Sunagakure and Kirigakure, who are thousands of miles apart, can work together, after all, they really have no competing interests.
But after thinking about it, he wondered whether the people in Kirigakure thought that the group of insects like Sunagakure were throwing too fast when facing Konoha.
This gave Konoha the energy and strength to turn around and deal with them in the Country of Whirlpool, which ultimately led to their defeat, so they took some retaliatory actions or something like that.
The third generation Raikage died even more aggrievedly. This Raikage, who was exhausted by tens of thousands of people for three days and three nights, was actually fighting on the front line with Iwagakure and Konoha. He planned to prepare for the future with Iwagakure.
In order to prepare for the battle, he ran to investigate the intelligence.
Kumogakure and Iwagakure themselves have a bad relationship, and their conflicts are very deep.
Now the Third Raikage died at the hands of Iwagakure, how could they endure it?
It has to be said that it was the death of the third generation Raikage that made the current fourth generation Raikage choose to temporarily cease the war with Konoha and return to the village to prepare for the war against Iwagakure.
However, Iwagakure was aware of Kumogakure's actions, and at the same time, the morale of the front line was greatly reduced due to the wave of wind and water.
They also immediately chose to make a truce with Konoha and went all out to prepare against Kumogakure.
To put it bluntly, it was precisely because Iwagakure lost the Third Raikage that the Third Ninja World War, which was going to last for who knows how long, was stopped.
The reason Sarutobi Hiruzen did not want compensation was because he hoped that the two sides could fight so that he could take a breather.
But what went against their wishes was that in the end, the two sides just went through the motions and had no intention of going to war with each other.
He also suffered huge losses due to this wave of operations, and in the end he had to take the blame and abdicate, and this was how Minato Namikaze became the fourth generation Hokage.
In fact, if you think about it carefully, people have long been disgusted by the years of war. It is not just Konoha that has suffered huge losses, but other ninja villages have also suffered immeasurable losses.
The only one that has retained its strength is Yunyin Village, because their biggest loss may be that they are dead.
Under such circumstances, the Third Tsuchikage Onoki naturally did not want the war to continue.
And the Fourth Raikage Ai has just come to power and has yet to gain a stable foothold. Even if his subordinates are eager for revenge, they cannot let him do whatever he wants.
But no matter what, this incident completely demonstrated their mutual distrust, and it was this kind of distrust war that was ended.
"At that time, Konoha was at the end of its rope and had to resort to recuperation to recover itself."
Han Yuan looked at the setting sun in the sky. He couldn't help but smile and pointed with his finger, then continued.
"Konoha at that time was probably like the sunset in the eyes of many people. Even if he won three battles, he had to pay too much. And our Third Hokage probably thought the same way.
Therefore, after Yunyin Village expressed his hope to sign a complete peace agreement a few years ago, his attitude was a little carried away, completely forgetting the original precautions he should have as a shadow, and the result was a tragedy."
Shisui could be considered a witness to this period of history, because he was already serving in ANBU during this period, but now that it was mentioned again, he couldn't help but sigh.
At that time, they really relaxed their vigilance too much and indulged those outside Kumogakure ninjas too much. With Hiruzen Sarutobi's tacit approval, those guys could wander around Konoha without restraint.
The result of this is that they can openly and openly explore the intelligence of Konoha, which leads to the intelligence of the Hyuga clan being polished off, eventually leading to such a tragedy.
"I just said that Sarutobi Hiruzen believes that Konoha Mountain is at the end of its rope and needs time to recuperate and regain its strength."
While Shisui was sighing with emotion, Hahara spoke again, this time his voice became much more serious.
"From his perspective, what he has to do is to avoid the situation from escalating and preventing another war from breaking out.
Perhaps he has made assessments from all aspects, leading him to conclude that Konoha will inevitably fail once this war breaks out.
Therefore, he resolutely made a choice, that is, he would rather exchange the life of a person or even a family for peace. After all, is it the lesser of two evils?
Shisui, if you look at it this way, do you think Hiruzen Sarutobi is wrong?"
is it wrong?
When Zhisui heard Habara's question and looked back at Habara's words, he really wanted to answer: That's right!
Because from the perspective of Hokage, there were really not many choices at that time. Isn't it a good thing to sacrifice one's life in exchange for peace?
It's just that Shisui didn't dare to answer at all, because he didn't dare to forget that Habara's evaluation and opinion on this matter was a contradictory answer.
So this means that Habara has other answers, other answers that conflict with the current answer that seems to be extremely correct.
Taking a deep breath, Shisui shook his head: "I don't know, Hahara.
If it were someone else, I might answer yes without hesitation.
But facing you, I dare not give any answer at all, because I know that my answer may not be realistic at all."
"Be confident, Shisui."
Seeing Zhisui like this, Hahara couldn't help but feel a little funny. He reached out and patted Zhisui on the shoulder before continuing to speak.
"I said that if you look at this question from different standpoints, you will get different answers.
But the position we are in now requires us to look at problems not from a single perspective, but to think and understand more comprehensively and comprehensively.
We have finished talking about Sarutobi Hiruzen’s stance, let’s talk about the situation in the ninja world.
Konoha's life has been very difficult these years, the workload has plummeted, and the economy is not good, have you considered the reasons?"
"Um..." Shisui couldn't help but scratch his head when facing Habara's question. He was really not good at this aspect: "Is it because of the daimyo?"
"The famous name is one reason, but the bigger reason is the overall image of Konoha."
Habara smiled and shook his head, and then he proposed a concept that was unfamiliar but familiar to Shisui.
"Families have their own image, and Ninja Village naturally has its own image.
The main reason why Uchiha is so miserable is because of the sensory perception we have caused to other people in the village, which affects our image in their minds.
The same is true for the Ninja Village. We won three battles. Even though it was a tragic victory, we were one against four. This kind of prestige is an intangible wealth.
But with Kumogakure's invasion, we chose to keep things quiet, and the fourth generation unexpectedly died eight years ago.
This immediately gave the entire ninja world the impression that "Konoha is strong on the outside but weak on the inside", causing Konoha's credibility to plummet.
Naturally, those clients did not dare to hand over tasks to Konoha, and these trusts naturally went into the hands of the Ninja Village, which was more powerful and had higher credibility.
Over the years you have been in ANBU, you should have noticed that Kumogakure has developed very well, right?"
Shisui nodded seriously. As an ANBU, he had access to a lot of information. He naturally knew how Kumogakure had developed over the years.
But he never thought that Kumogakure's development was actually obtained by stepping on Konoha, and was obtained by the concessions of Sarutobi Hiruzen!
This made his original idea that Sarutobi Hiruzen made the right choice begin to waver involuntarily.
"Because of this choice, we left a very bad impression on the ninja world, and also because of this choice, the situation in Konoha Village is also not good.
Originally, the fall of the fourth generation and the return of Sarutobi Hiruzen made many members of the big family dissatisfied.
But for the sake of Konoha's stability, and considering that there is currently no suitable Hokage candidate, there will be no follow-up to this matter.
However, as this incident broke out, all the big families' dissatisfaction with Hiruzen Sarutobi reached a new peak.
Shisui, do you know that the original intention of the village was to protect everyone, especially children.
During the Third War, Hiruzen Sarutobi had already violated the original intention of establishing the village by letting the children go to the battlefield.
What's more, the establishment of the village itself relied on the alliance of the major ninja clans, and with the support of civilian ninjas, Konoha was born.
Now Sarutobi Hiruzen's actions are harming the most fundamental interests of the village, and all ninja families are naturally dissatisfied with what he does.
They will all be worried that since Sarutobi Hiruzen can push Hinata out this time, who will it be next time and will it be their turn?"
Having said this, Hahara stopped slightly, his eyes locked on Shisui who looked a little restless, and finally he turned to look at Hokage Rock.
"And Sarutobi Hiruzen acted arbitrarily this time. It seemed that he was doing it for Konoha. It seemed that everything he did was to bring peace to the ninja world.
But in fact, he ignored a very important thing, that is, he ignored everyone's will, in other words, he ignored the people's will.
Are all ordinary ninjas really willing to be humiliated like this, so much so that they can't even receive enough missions because of this incident?
Do the family ninjas really want him to arbitrarily give away his own people as trading goods regardless of everyone's wishes?
Peace never depends on compromise, hasn't the Uchiha incident taught us?"
Having said this, Hahara stopped, looked at Shisui seriously and then asked word by word.
"So, whether Sarutobi Hiruzen is right or wrong depends entirely on his stance.
For those who do not want war, and for himself, this is right.