Ren's words made Artoria look thoughtful. It was not that she couldn't accept other people's opinions.
It's just that so far, she firmly believes that her concept of "the king is not a human being" is correct, but the demise of Britain has always been a deep scar, which inevitably caused some wavering and doubts in her.
"So, Caster, you think the king is not aloof?"
Saber looked at Wu Ming. Of course she would not deny her consistent philosophy easily.
Ren shook his head and closed the laptop:
"I didn't say that. There were many lonely kings in history, but they didn't choose to blend in with the crowd."
"Then what do you mean by those words you just said?" King Daimao stared blankly and asked with a frown.
"Aloof kings, or lonely kings, are actually very common. No one stipulates that kings should mingle with the people or their ministers, but this does not mean that they do not understand people's hearts.
Regardless of whether you are a tyrant or a wise king, the emperor's mental skills are the basic skills.
Only those who are able to figure out the thoughts of their ministers, can clearly distinguish between loyal and traitors, and properly handle the various interests of the country will be able to maximize their kingship."
While narrating, Ren began to clear away the leftovers on the table, and Saber saw this and took the initiative to help.
The two of them walked towards the kitchen together with the dishes and dishes. When they arrived, Ren began to wash the dishes, while Saber frowned and stood aside in deep thought.
"King of Knights, I want to know, have you ever tried to put yourself in other people's perspective and understand what others are thinking?
For example, what are Lancelot, Tristan, Guinevere, and even Mordred thinking in their hearts?"
Renn put the washed dishes away one by one and said calmly.
It's quite interesting to say that all the Knights of the Round Table, including the naughty little Mo, are actually king chefs.
But in the end, many people still parted ways with King Daimao, and even became enemies. In fact, it was not that they had any objections to her.
It's just that some people don't agree with her ideas, or some people don't want her to continue like this, or even hope that she can give up and make herself feel better.
Saber's face was a little confused. After a moment, she said in a low tone:
"Correct ideas, correct governance... plus the king himself dedicating everything to the country, this is the way to govern the country, I... think so."
"However, King Knight, you have to know that human beings are strange creatures. You cannot guide them because your actions and ideas are very correct."
"What did you say? The right idea, the right way...why can't it guide the people?!" Saber looked stunned and asked, "Since everything is correct! The country should have long-term peace and prosperity, right?"
Ren shook his head slightly and did not answer for the time being. After washing the dishes, he took off his apron.
He greeted Saber, and the two servants walked to the balcony of the castle together.
Phew~
The night wind brought a bit of coolness, blowing their hair. Everything was silent, except for the bright moonlight pouring down, giving everything a silvery glow.
Ren looked up at the stars in the sky, smiled and said:
"King of Knights, you overestimate the kindness or positive part of people, and underestimate the ugly or dark part of human nature.
There is essentially no difference between the two.
Human beings are the kind of beings who know that something or some things are wrong, but still make the same mistake again because of interests, grudges, beliefs, viciousness..."
Saber frowned and instinctively wanted to retort, but Ren raised his hand to stop her. He projected two chairs and invited her to sit down together.
Crossing his legs, Ren narrated in an indifferent tone:
“In this era, many ideas are very correct and people can’t find fault with them, but many things are still a mess.
Everyone knows the importance of peace, but this does not prevent arms companies and capitalists from fanning the flames and provoking wars in order to sell guns and ammunition.
Everyone knows that everyone is equal, but this does not prevent everyone from discriminating against each other in their hearts. Discrimination is caused by rich and poor society, discrimination by skin color, discrimination by gender...
Everyone knows to care for the environment, but that doesn’t stop me from thinking that the trash can is too far away from me and I just throw it away when I’m too lazy to go there. We also need to protect wild animals, but doesn’t the meat taste good?
Human beings are the kind of beings who know what is right but don't mind always making mistakes when making actual choices.
From ancient times to the present, what guides and drives people is not right or wrong at all! It is desire! Then the winners write history. The difference between them and the losers is that they win and guide more people."
Saber slowly widened her eyes and looked at Ren angrily, but for a moment she didn't know what to say.
Ren didn't care about her anger and asked:
"In addition to you, there are two kings in this Holy Grail War, the Conqueror King Iskandar and the Hero King Gilgamesh. From your point of view, are they tyrants?"
"Of course!" Saber said bluntly.
"I also think they are tyrants, but it is undeniable that they are both kings praised by the world, and they are equally great.
What about tyrants? They are also recognized and worshiped by the world, and their deeds are still circulated and fascinating."
Saber's lips moved slightly, but she did not refute, but her expression was slightly lonely. Even if she did not agree with their ideas, she could not deny that they were both famous kings.
"Take the conqueror Iskandar as an example. He was the lord of the hegemony. He invaded everywhere, provoked wars, and caused countless people to lose their lives and become homeless.
But more and more people are following his victorious steps.
No matter plundering, no matter trampling on him, following him, money, beauty, power, territory... can all be collected.
There is no justice in these actions, but they are equally attractive to people. In the end, they can leave their mark in history and make countless heroes fascinated by them..."
The corners of Ren's mouth raised as he slowly narrated.
One morning a few days ago, he met the Emperor in a bookstore, and the other party said that he would recruit him. The treatment would be to make him the Vice President of the United States and conquer the world together.
Doesn't the emperor know how much casualties conquering the world will cause? But he still has no intention of giving up.
To put it bluntly, if the German head of state had won World War II, he would have been the supreme king of the world, and history books would probably praise him to the sky.
This is a "great achievement" to unify the world.
As for how cruel his methods were, how much evil he had done, and how much blood he had stained, what did it matter in the face of this unique and great cause?
"Saber, you should understand that those who you don't like can also achieve great achievements with ideas that you think are wrong. Who can deny the greatness of Alexander the Great and the Macedonian Empire?"
Saber couldn't help but stood up, looking at the sky a little absent-mindedly: "I can't...be a tyrant."
Didn't she never think about it, if she trampled Britain with domineering power, could it eventually lead to a better ending?
"King of Knights, I didn't tell you to become a tyrant, nor did I deny your royal rights. I just wanted to remind you.
Don’t ignore the complexity and changeability of the human heart and the duality of desires.
There is no difference between being too lofty and idealistic, and being too cruel and cold-blooded. People will eventually become unbearable.
Needless to say about the latter, the former is a limit that most people cannot reach. The ways of saints and sages can be respected and admired, but they cannot be used to require the general public to imitate them."
Master Ren jumped onto the city wall, folded his arms and stood in the cold wind, and the wind blew his white hair.
King Da Mao looked at him blankly and said nothing.
He lowered his head and looked down at King Daimao with an erratic voice:
"Girl, let me tell you something.
A true ruler cannot let people live in such pain and despair that they will resist if they cannot survive.
Of course, we cannot let them live too comfortably and happily.
It is to allow people to live a relatively hard life, but be able to persevere and still have some hope for the future.
This state is the best.
On the surface, it guides people's hearts with relatively correct but compromised ideas, and secretly suppresses abnormal movements with absolute violence, so that the rule can last longer.
No matter what method you use, you must understand people's hearts, that is, understand what people are thinking. Not only the "positive" aspects of beauty, kindness, and justice need to be praised loudly, but the "negative" aspects of greed, evil, and darkness must also be taken care of secretly.
Don't ignore the latter, it holds a lot of weight in people's hearts.
Of course, I'm not a king, I'm just talking on paper, don't take it seriously, it's just my humble opinion."
Saber's body trembled, and she gritted her teeth and remained silent for a while.
Then she slowly raised her head, staring at him with her green eyes, and said word by word:
"You guys are so annoying!"
"I think so too, you are so awkward!"
Ren also stared at her with deep eyes.
Saber's beautiful eyes were burning with anger. She felt very angry at Ren's words and wanted to strike him with a sword.
But deep down, I had to admit that he was not completely talking nonsense.
She had never considered it before. In her opinion, "wrong" or "not so correct" ideas can actually unite people's hearts and lead people. This is also the reason why tyrants can achieve great achievements.
But she doesn't want to accept these views.
Saber and Renn looked at each other, refusing to give in to each other, and the atmosphere was even a bit tense. The conflicting ideas or values made them unable to recognize each other.
This can't be solved in one meal.
Ren is not the "partner of justice" Emiya Shaoxia, and some of his ideas and arguments are difficult for Artoria to accept.
He is not as extreme and violent as before, but he is a realist, while Dai Mao Wang is an idealist, and she is actually quite extreme.
"Caster, if you are not a hero, have you given up your ideals and now become a villain or a villain?"
The Daimao King has a serious expression and his eyes are sharp.
She recognized and admired "Wu Ming"'s behavior of sacrificing himself to save others, and thought he was noble.
Therefore, she felt an unspeakable anger in her heart towards him who chose to give up at this moment. She had wanted to ask this question for a long time, but she had just chosen to suppress it before.
"Hero? Villain? I'm not sure, but he's definitely not a hero." Ren said with a smile, not worried about offending her at all.
From the very beginning, he had no intention of conquering King Du Mao. She was not his cup of tea. She would be just as good as "Gun Dao".
Compared to young girls, royal sisters are more attractive.
She is a little out of control now, which actually proves that his words had a considerable impact on her.
As long as he achieved his goal, he didn't care if he made her angry.
"Caster, I actually want to fight you!" King Da Mao snorted coldly when he heard this, and his attitude became very tough.
She didn't want to kill her ally. After the contract was signed, Wuming gave up making wishes with the Holy Grail and was no longer her enemy.
However, she still hopes to use her sword to teach him a lesson.
As much as Wren tried to influence her, she also wanted him to return to his heroic form instead of giving up.
Ren stood on the city wall with his hands behind his hands, his red coat rustling in the cold wind, and he said in a clear voice:
"No problem, I also want to fight you, but I have to wait until I kill Lancer and you return to your full glory."
"How conceited. Do you think I am no match for you now?" Arturia was a little unconvinced.
She can feel the opponent's strength, but she is not afraid.
"I'm sorry, but that's the truth."
Ren said calmly, and before Saber could say anything, he jumped up from the city wall and jumped into the forest.
How can a man give up an entire forest for a tree?
Therefore, he gave up King Da Mao and went to harm this forest. In a few days, the area of this forest will be greatly reduced.
"Caster, just wait, I will definitely teach you a lesson!" Saber shouted as she watched him disappear.
"Okay, lovely little girl, remember to keep this fighting spirit, otherwise it will be too boring when educating you."
The wind brought Ren's very rude words, which made Artoria on the castle tremble with anger. The guy also called her a little girl.
Beat him, beat him hard!
She didn't hate him, and Wuming didn't do anything that she found intolerable, but that guy's mouth was too vicious and he repeatedly provoked her, so he really deserved a beating.
In any case, both of them decided to give it a try in the future.
………
An hour later, Emiya Kiritsugu came back. He came to the room where Matou Kariya was staying and knocked on the door.
squeak~
The door was opened, and Kariya invited him in, then picked up the book of false ministers on the table and handed it to him.
After Father Kiritsugu took it, he did not leave directly:
"Matō Kariya, you are the master, right? But you completely give up the leadership to your servants. Why?"
"For no reason, I left Fuyuki City that day. After calming down and thinking, I realized that if it weren't for Wuming, I would be dead, and my death would be worthless."
Yanye laughed to himself, of course he knew Wuming was using him, but this did not prevent him from being grateful to the other person for saving his life, even though the process was not pleasant.
"Out of gratitude?" Father Kiritsugu lit a cigarette.
Yan Ye sat on the chair and shook his head:
"I'm not a good decision-maker. When I first participated in the Holy Grail War, I didn't even figure out who my enemy was."
He himself found it incredible that he didn't realize that the old bug was the source of the problem.
Father Kiritsugu asked in a calm tone: "Do you trust him?"
"At least I'm sure he won't harm me, that's enough." Kariya suddenly laughed, looked at Kiritsugu's father and said, "You know, after seeing you, I'm sure of one thing."
"Oh, what's the matter?" Father Kiritsugu asked.
"Wu Ming is right. You guys are all monsters. For me, an ordinary person, to want to compete with you for the Holy Grail is really overestimating my capabilities."
After hearing this, Father Kiritsugu shook his cigarette and remained silent.
Matou Kariya picked up the glass filled with red wine on the table, took a sip, and continued with a smile:
"If someone else invited me, I would definitely refuse to come back and continue fighting the Holy Grail War. Even if I came, I would probably regret it soon.
Just like Wu Ming said, I shouldn't have gotten involved in this matter from the beginning."
"But now that you're here, you have so much confidence in him?" Father Kiritsugu put down his cigarette and looked at him.
"You'll find out tomorrow night." Yan Ye said in a calm tone after finishing a glass of red wine, "There's no need to test him. Although there are no stories of him in this world and he is indeed considered an 'unknown' person, he is... very scary.
.”
"Thanks for reminding."
Father Kiritsugu glanced at Kariya and walked out of the room.
