Chapter 413,414 Deng Xis debate between right and wrong
I Was Not a King in the Spring and Autumn Period Chapter 413, 414 Deng Xi’s Debate between Right and Wrong
Ye Xu knocked on the door a few more times, and then shouted:
"Mr. Ye is here to pay homage to you!"
It was still unusually quiet inside. Ye Xu looked back at Li Ran and Sun Wu, but shook his head helplessly.
When Sun Wu saw this, he also said loudly:
"Sun Wu is not very talented, and he has wasted his position as the Duke of Yeyi County. I came here to visit you today. I hope that you can give me some advice. Wu is very grateful!"
Sun Wu also lowered his stance, but still received no response. At this time, Li Ran said:
"There is no need to be so polite. This person seems to be nothing more than that. He only dares to say big words in the room or beforehand. When things really happen, he does not dare to show his face. This person is not very capable. Let's go back.
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Li Ran's move was obviously a way to provoke the general, and the door actually opened not long after. A child came to greet him, but he also replied extremely arrogantly:
"Sir, you are aware of this and are waiting in the courtyard at the moment."
Everyone looked at each other in confusion, and then followed the child in. The courtyard door was also wide open at this time, and Li Ran and the other two looked at each other again before walking in.
After entering the courtyard, they saw a person lying at the door. This person looked unkempt and slovenly, but he blocked Li Ran and the others at the door.
It seems like there are no good intentions.
When Ye Xu saw this, he couldn't help but said:
"Deng Xi, it's okay for you to be rude to me, but do you know who these two are?"
It turned out that this person was Deng Xi. He heard Ye Xu ask this, but he still looked lazy and replied casually:
"Oh, didn't you declare your honorary name just now? If Mr. Ye hadn't come personally, how would you treat me here?"
"Hmph! Now that you know it, why are you still so rude and arrogant? So arrogant?"
Deng Xi said playfully:
"In the past, when I met Dr. Zichan, if someone was like this, how about others? If you are sincerely studying, then you must have an attitude of studying and be humble. If you are not sincerely studying, then why should you be polite?
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Li Ran smiled slightly, calmly.
"I have heard about Mr. Deng's name for a long time, but when I saw him today, he is indeed well-deserved. His arrogance is rare in the world. No wonder Dr. Zichan also has a headache because of his steps!"
When Deng Xi heard this, he immediately turned around, sat up cross-legged, and said proudly:
"Haha, it's just incompetent and insulting. However, Xi is quite proud of the previous fight with Zichan! It's just a pity that he is not a tolerant person and still respects him based on his status.
, drove Xi out!"
When Ye Xu heard him slander Dr. Zichan, whom everyone regarded as a virtuous man, he bluntly said:
"You are acting so recklessly that everyone in Zheng Yi has become indifferent to right from wrong. Isn't this the same as turning the enemy away? If you are not driven away, sooner or later it will lead to great chaos in the Zheng Kingdom."
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Faced with Ye Xu's accusation, Deng Xi sneered and couldn't help asking:
"Haha, Master Yi Zai's words are ridiculous!"
"Who can say for sure what is right or wrong?"
Ye Xu was startled and said casually:
"With laws as the root, etiquette as the basis, regularity as the foundation, and the outline as the foundation, right and wrong will have their own fair judgment!"
Deng Xi burst out laughing and said with great disdain:
"There is a public opinion? Then who is the public? How can the public ensure that it is the public? Let me ask you, some things in this world are just and some are unjust. Is this true?"
"That's natural. There are two sides of right and wrong in the world. Wherever there is right, there is also wrong!"
Deng Xi was half lying down, but now he sat up.
"Hypocrisy, deception, theft, slavery, are these just or unjust?!"
Ye Xu didn't understand why Deng Xi asked like this, but he still reluctantly answered:
"Of course it's unjust, do I need to say that?"
Deng Xi smiled meaningfully.
"Okay, let me ask you again, is it justice or injustice for Tang to destroy Jie of Xia and King Wu to destroy Zhou and enslave their people?"
"justice!……"
"Then, before destroying Jie of Xia and Zhou of Shang, is it justice to take away their property or use strategies to deceive them?"
"justice……"
"Suppose a general leads his troops to fight, but their morale is low and the military formation is in chaos. He tells the soldiers that reinforcements will be coming soon. What is actually happening? This is a lie. There are no so-called reinforcements at all. But it finally helps the soldiers get rid of their depression.
And he won the victory in one go, how do you feel about such a 'lie', Lord Yupzai?"
"I have to say, this is also just."
"What if a child is sick but refuses to take medicine, and his father deceives him that the medicine is delicious and lets the child take it, or temporarily replaces it with honey water to deceive him and save the child's life with good medicine?"
"This has to be right."
"If a friend of yours is in a state of extreme madness and is prone to committing suicide, and you steal his sword to prevent him from committing suicide, is this considered theft?"
Ye Xu wiped the cold sweat from his forehead. Li Ran and Sun Wu watched this scene with interest, feeling that Deng Xi was indeed a sophistry genius, irrefutable.
"Although this is stealing, it is also justified."
Deng Xi raised his hands slightly and lifted up his sleeves.
“After analysis, I ask: Is a person who voluntarily violates justice unjust, or a person who does not voluntarily violate justice?”
"Also, your Excellency just mentioned 'turning Yi to Zhi', and I find it strange. If King Wu's defeat of Zhou is just, then why are Boyi and Shuqi who opposed it also just? Isn't this not right?
Self-contradictory? If this is the case, then what’s the problem with ‘turning the barbarian into a plant’?”
"Cu Yi is Zhi" refers to scolding Boyi as a robber Zhi, which is a metaphor for confusing right and wrong and slandering good people.
The two brothers Boyi and Shuqi held the reins of their brother King Wu of Zhou's horse to persuade him not to commit regicide, but Jiang Shang finally let them go, and the two of them swore not to eat Zhou millet until they starved to death.
die.
Therefore, Yi and Qi were so knowledgeable about etiquette and righteousness that no one at that time said that they were doing something wrong.
And the King of Zhou defeated Zhou because it was destiny and the people's will, so it was naturally just.
Therefore, this kind of contradiction will inevitably make people's view of right and wrong somewhat confusing.
"Xu has lost confidence in his answer and doesn't know how to reply to sir..."
After Deng Xi heard this, he realized that he had confused another person's mind, so he couldn't help but laugh smugly.
At this time, Sun Wu on the side was obviously still a little dissatisfied, so he argued:
"Sir, Yi and Qi respected their father's orders and abandoned their thrones. This was a great act of filial piety. Also, because King Wen was newly deceased, they advised King Wu not to fight. This was also an act of filial piety. Such a filial person is naturally just. As for what you said
The attack on Zhou was actually in compliance with the destiny of heaven. Even though it was an indecent act, it was the destiny of heaven, and there is no need to argue!"
Deng Xi glanced sideways at Sun Wu, looked at his attire, and immediately guessed Sun Wu's identity.
"Oh? It seems that Mr. Ye must have his own opinions on right and wrong?"
"Of course! Small ones are like 'repaying debts', 'benefits are harmful', and big ones are like 'selfless'. Aren't these the righteousness of a gentleman?!"
Deng Xi laughed, as if he had heard some joke and couldn't stop.
Sun Wu was a little angry, but he still endured it. He had always been steady, and he knew very well that a little impatience would ruin a big plan.
"I dare to ask Mr. Ye, if Mr. Ye borrowed a sword from a friend, and the friend was about to go crazy and wanted to kill someone, so he insisted on asking Mr. Ye to return the sword, then would Mr. Ye return the sword at this time? Or not?
?As for 'benefit is right and harm is wrong', how can you know that what is beneficial to you is right and what is harmful is right and wrong?"
"As for 'selfless'... Haha, that is even more nonsense! As the saying goes, 'This is also right and wrong, that is also right and wrong, right and wrong are infinite.' Who in the world can take into account the right and wrong of everyone in the world?"
"Are the princes who think they are great princes really great princes? If they make laws that are unfavorable to the people, and the people still have to implement them according to this, is that just? What if they don't understand what is going on?
As a ‘big public’, where should we start talking about ‘selfless’?”
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Chapter 414: The Theory of Two Alternatives
Deng Xi's words caused everyone present to fall into deep thought. It is indeed difficult to reach a conclusion on the right and wrong, and different conclusions will be drawn from different angles.
At this time, I saw another group of people wearing sackcloth and mourning coming to the door. Seeing the courtyard door open, they immediately rushed in.
The first one was a filial son. He knelt down and prayed:
"Sir, there is a difficult matter at the moment. Everyone says that you are very wise, so please give me some advice!"
Deng Xi put Li Ran and others aside, got up and dragged the filial son up:
"Just say what you have to say, why do you need to give such a big gift?"
It turned out that this family drowned someone, but another family fished out the body. Naturally, the family wanted to go and ask for the body, but the person who found the body was asking for an exorbitant price. Although they were from a well-off family, they also felt that there was something wrong with it.
Can't stand the price.
After Deng Xi heard this, he laughed cynically:
"Why are you so anxious? Can the person who has obtained the corpse still sell it to others? Sooner or later, I will have to give it to you on credit?"
When the family heard this, they suddenly understood and thanked him one after another, grateful for Dade's departure.
Not long after they left, another group of people came in, and it turned out to be the family that had found the body. They heard that Deng Xi had given the family an idea, so they came here specifically to investigate.
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When Deng Xi saw this, he smiled and said:
"You can rest assured, they have nowhere else to buy them. Since they are irreplaceable, they will still come to you after all!"
When this group of people heard this, they were enlightened and thanked Deng Xi profusely before leaving.
Deng Xi's sophistry made everyone who witnessed it stunned and couldn't help but be convinced.
Li Ran then spoke:
"Sir's approach seems to be inaction, but in fact it is based on the interests of both parties. In the end, everyone will lose their composure and make concessions. It is really clever!"
After hearing this, Deng Xi stood up and came to Li Ran, looking at him carefully from top to bottom again.
Just because he saw that Mr. Ye had always been courteous to this person, he guessed Li Ran's identity based on this:
"We have never exchanged names. Could it be that Li Ran and Li Ziming are famous all over the world?"
Li Ran said politely:
"I don't deserve to be famous all over the world, but I am really Li Ran."
Deng Xi nodded:
"Since it is Mr. Ziming, I will laugh and say a few words generously. I hope you can give me some advice. I always believe that 'take what is not as right, and what is right is wrong. There is no limit to right and wrong, but what is possible and what is not can change day by day.' Although this is easy
People say that I, Deng, do not distinguish right from wrong and confuse right and wrong! But how many people in the world know and understand the meaning of analysis?!"
Li Ran raised his hands and bowed before politely replying:
"Please sir, please elaborate."
"Just as the king of Zhou defeated Zhou, the king of Zhou was not guilty, and Boyi and Shuqi were also not wrong! It's just that the perspective is different. The right and wrong of looking at the problem will be different. This is the reality that exists in the world. However, there has never been any
People have to discern, so they are just neglecting the Taoism."
"Since it is common sense to think right and wrong, how can we avoid the important and take the easy? So, you must pay attention to this matter!"
When Li Ran heard this, he couldn't help but be convinced:
"What you said is absolutely true!"
"However, today's monarchs no longer have the ability to distinguish the difference between similarities and differences, and cannot decide what is right and wrong. As a result, everyone in the world cannot distinguish between black and white, and it is difficult to distinguish between white and black. This kind of situation
This situation has actually been going on for a long time.”
"Insincerity has never heard of things, and insincerity has seen things that have never been seen. If you don't plan carefully, how can you achieve your expectations? If you don't think wisely, you can't nip things in the bud."
"So as a monarch, if you are thoughtful and know things like a god, then none of your subordinates will be corrupt. If your monarch only knows how to cover the people's ears and eyes, he will always use a set of extremely concise logic to make arbitrary decisions.
Right or wrong, then the people will eventually become angry because of panic!"
Similarities and differences cannot be distinguished, right and wrong cannot be determined, white and black cannot be separated, pure and turbid cannot be understood, for a long time! If you listen sincerely, you can hear the soundless, if you see, you can see the invisible, if you plan, you can predict the unforeseen signs, and if you think, you can prevent things from happening before they happen.
There is no other. If you don’t listen with your ears, there will be no sound! If you don’t see with your eyes, you will shine invisibly! If you don’t calculate with your heart, you will have no sign! If you don’t think with knowledge, it will happen before it happens! Your Majesty.
, thinking about hiding in the shadows, being selfless in the crowd, covering their eyes and ears, and all the people are frightened. ——Deng Xi's "Wuhou Chapter".
When Li Ran heard this, he sighed sincerely:
"Listening to your words will help you live ten more years! Sir, you are really a great talent!"
Deng Xi continued:
"According to the name and responsibilities is the king's business; following the law and issuing orders is the minister's duty. Those who are not allowed to act on their own initiative, and those who ignore the responsibility of the superiors are not allowed to exist. The king has three burdens, and the ministers have four responsibilities. What is that?
The three responsibilities are: trusting one's relatives, one is the culprit; taking a scholar by name, the other is the culprit; being close and distant, the three responsibilities are. What are the four responsibilities? Receiving a heavy reward but not doing any work is the responsibility of work; being in a high position and not governing, the second responsibility is being an official;
If there is injustice, there are three blames; if you defend the army and rush north, there are four blames. If the king is not tired of the three things and the ministers are not tired of the four things, the country can be safe."
The meaning of these words is that fulfilling responsibilities in accordance with the provisions of the law is what the monarch should do. It is the duty of the ministers to abide by the law. The ministers are not allowed to mess around. The monarch has three kinds of hindrances, and the ministers have four kinds of default.
There are three kinds of drag: one is to listen to people who are only close friends, the other is to get people with false reputations, and the third is to be close and distant from each other.
The four types of dereliction of responsibility are: one is receiving a reward for no merit, the second is eating without a meal, the third is treating things unfairly, and the fourth is dereliction of duty.
If the monarch does not have these three burdens and his ministers do not have these four defaults, the country will naturally be safe.
After listening to these words, Li Ran was even more convinced that this person was indeed an extraordinary master. He couldn't help but bow deeply and said:
"Sir, you are so talented, why don't you go out and show your great ambitions? Although Yeyi is small, it still has the power of thousands of families, enough for you to make a difference!"
Deng Xi couldn't help but laugh and said:
"Mr. Ziming, are you really willing to invite me to come out? Do you think that I have ruined the reputation of Dr. Zichan?"
It seems that Deng Xi also knew something about the relationship between Li Ran and Dr. Zichan.
"It is a matter of merit. What you did in the Zheng Kingdom does not matter here. And if it really depends on Dr. Zichan's character, if he really thinks that your husband is a troublesome person, I am afraid that he will not be able to keep him!"
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People in the world have always said that Deng Xi was killed by Dr. Zichan. This is actually a fallacy.
In fact, Zichan also believed that "ritual" is "the scripture of heaven, the meaning of earth, and the conduct of people. The scriptures of heaven and earth are followed by the people in practice."
On this point, Zichan and Deng Xi are basically consistent.
Moreover, children’s property has always been tolerant, as evidenced by the “not destroying rural schools” in the early years!
In addition, according to "Zuo Zhuan", Deng Xi was indeed not killed by Zichan, but was later killed by Si Zhuan, another ruling minister of Zheng State. However, "Lu Shi Chunqiu" mentioned that Deng Xi was killed by Zichan.
, should be a fallacy.
"Now the situation in Ye Yi is similar to that in Zheng Yi, but there are some differences. This is the time for you to make great use of it. I hope you will not refuse!"
When Deng Xi heard this, he couldn't help laughing:
"Hahaha, if that's the case...someone, bring me my bamboo punishment!"
After hearing this, I saw the child at home walking out pushing a wheelbarrow.
"Xi failed to succeed in Zheng State, but as Mr. Ziming said, Dr. Zichan was able to save Xi's life and did not destroy the "Bamboo Punishment". Perhaps it was because he was somewhat pity that Xi still had some use for him.
That's why I show mercy. Today, thanks to Mr. Ziming's great regard, if I remain indifferent, I'm afraid I might be ignorant of good and evil."
"This piece of "Bamboo Punishment" is an analysis of what I have learned throughout my life. I hope Mr. Ziming will accept it!"