The students present were all very dissatisfied with Li Ran's words without exception. In their view, Li Ran was a typical sensationalist who was trying to gain fame and fame. You said you were right, I said I was right, but
He just said that you are all wrong.
If you knock over a boat of people with one pole, you will definitely not get the favor and approval of others.
What's more, among the people present, many people were disdainful of Li Ran's background, and naturally they were particularly disgusted with Li Ran's defense.
"Sir, what you said is wrong! Since King Wu divided the world, the emperor founded the country, the princes established families, the ministers set up side chambers, the officials had two clans, and the scholars had subordinate children, these are all the proper etiquette of the Zhou Dynasty."
"Exactly! Even if the monarch's power is arbitrary, the ethical code cannot be exempted from it. Today's debate is only between the official office and the enfeoffment. If these two are removed, Zhouli will not be able to tolerate it!"
"Yes, yes! Such remarks are truly rebellious!"
The students stood up one after another and argued with each other, causing the meeting place to become extremely chaotic.
Obviously, many students do not understand Li Ran's views. This is no wonder, after all, whether it is monarchy or enfeoffment, it is a question of the ownership of rights and responsibilities. In the eyes of people at the time, whether a country can prosper is not just
Do you see who has the power?
But in today's era, whether it is enfeoffment or monarchy, the shadow of Zhou Li is indispensable.
What Li Ran just said refutes both enfeoffment and monarchy. If both are undesirable, how can the Zhou rites exist?
But at this time, Shu Sunbao seemed unusually calm. He felt that since Li Ran had said that, he must have had a backup plan. So he unfolded his sleeves and waved his hand to signal the students present to quiet down.
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You must know that Li Ran, as the history of Luoyi's collection room, is the guardian and inheritor of Zhou rites. Of the many students present, who knows Zhou rites better than Li Ran?
"Haha, you really only know one, but don't know the other. You only think that 'Zhou Li' is a dead thing. But you don't know that Duke Zhou established rituals and music and the world was stable. How can the two words 'rituals and music' be a dead thing?"
Dead thing?"
Everyone was shocked when they heard this. But knowing that Li Xian must have something to say behind him, they all waited with bated breath.
"Rites and music are the way for the world to return to its heart! If it returns to its heart, the people's hearts will be unified! If the people's hearts are unified, everyone in the world will not miss its virtues! Therefore, if we cannot win over the hearts of the people, how can 'ritual and music' survive? Therefore, in ancient times,
A wise man once said: 'The people are the lords of the gods!', this statement can be understood!"
"What we are talking about now, monarchy or enfeoffment, is just the form of power, not its essence! Therefore, neither monarchy nor enfeoffment can solve the fundamental problem!"
Li Ran answered Shusun Bao's question.
At this time, he reviewed the future world in his mind and thought of the various countries that had appeared in history. Each of them had been overthrown, covered, and abandoned. In fact, they had not been able to solve the fundamental problem of social contradictions. Thousands of years of history
Whistling through his mind!
What is the fundamental problem?!
Shusun Bao was about to speak, but unexpectedly, in an inconspicuous corner next to the gathering, a young man in luxurious clothes and a handsome appearance suddenly stood up and asked for him.
"I dare to ask Brother Ziming, what is the fundamental problem?"
The young man looks similar to Li Ran, but he has an innate temperament, an approachable temperament, and he speaks calmly, giving people a very comfortable feeling.
"Ah? It's actually Tai Ziye."
"Meet the prince!"
The young man's voice immediately attracted the attention of everyone present, and they all stood up and bowed to him. It turned out that this person was the prince of the Lu Kingdom - Ji Ye.
Everyone saw the gift one after another and showed great respect.
When he saw the prince, Li Ran remembered what he had heard about the Lu State on the road a few days ago.
The former king of the Lu State, Lu Xianggong, had just passed away, and Prince Ji Ye was the heir designated by Lu Xianggong. However, Lu Xianggong's mourning period had not yet ended, so Tai Ziye's enthronement ceremony had not yet been held. At this time, he was still only the prince.
When Tai Ziye was called out, he didn't show any airs. Instead, he responded calmly to everyone, which was like a spring breeze.
"What the prince asked is exactly what I am thinking. I dare to ask Ziming, what is the fundamental question?"
After Shusunbao and the prince greeted each other, he turned around and continued to ask.
So everyone's eyes focused on Li Ran again, and they all wanted to know what the fundamental problem Li Ran said was, and whether this problem could support his refutation of the two most effective political systems in the world today.
"The fundamental problem is the common people."
"Common people's problem?"
"It's really nonsense. People have been farming since ancient times, so what's the problem?"
When everyone present heard this, they couldn't help but whisper to each other again.
Even Uncle Sunbao and Tai Ziye were also extremely surprised by Li Ran's answer.
Because they themselves rely on common people to farm the land, and Li Ran said that the problem lies here, doesn't it mean that the problem lies with them? Of course, everyone present can't even think of running away.
"Ziming, what's the problem with the common people?"
Shu Sunbao frowned, and he could vaguely feel that this question was not as simple as people thought, and he also had a very bad premonition about the answer Li Ran was about to give.
Tai Ziye, who had been standing in an inconspicuous corner, said nothing again, only looking at Li Ran attentively, waiting for Li Ran's answer.
"Little Master, I think this man is not a fool, right? How can a normal person say such ridiculous things?"
Next to the woman wearing a hat and veil, the servant once again expressed confusion about Li Ran.
However, the woman turned a deaf ear. The veil was still directed toward Li Ran, who seemed to be very focused.
At this time, facing the doubts of a group of students, the prince, Shu Sunbao and others, Li Ran had to continue to explain:
"The so-called common people are actually the foundation for maintaining the survival of the world!"
"Since the two emperors of Yan and Huang, Yao and Shun have nurtured (nurtured) the people, and the common people have lived in groups, and land is the basis for the common people's survival. Our ancestors created well fields, and divided their fields into nine, eight for private, and one for public. Nine are public taxes.
Choosing one of them can be called benevolent government."
"Today, the common people all rely on the fields in the countryside, and the tribute from the world is not more than nine out of ten. The common people are not enough to feed themselves. If they cannot feed themselves, how can the common people survive? If the common people do not exist, how can the country stand?"
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"Therefore, no matter whether it is enfeoffment or monarchy, exploring the root cause cannot solve this problem, so it is not advisable."
Li Ran's words immediately shut up everyone present, and many people even looked at Li Ran in shock for a while.
Because they never expected that the common people's issue raised by Li Ran was, in the final analysis, related to the survival of the common people. It was neither an issue of the officialdom nor the enfeoffment of powerful people, but an issue of the common people at the bottom of society!
"Mighty my lord"
After Owl Wing heard these words, he immediately looked at his master with admiration! Although he has followed Li Ran since he was a child, this is the first time he has heard such words.
Moreover, as a commoner, he saw that now someone could finally stand in the position of a commoner like them and speak for them!
How pitiful! It’s really not easy!
Owl Wing was almost moved to tears, but when he thought that his master said these words, he might as well keep the tears. After all, he had been on the run with him for several months, and if he wanted to cry, his master should be moved to tears first.
Right?
On the other side, no matter how enlightened Uncle Sunbao and Prince Ji Ye were, they were deeply shocked when they heard these words. Their faces were full of surprise, and they looked at Li Ran speechless for a long time.
If placed in the future world, their expressions would most likely be called ignorant.
But if you put yourself in their shoes and look at it from their perspective, their shock is actually understandable.
After all, whether it is Shusun Bao, Tai Ziye, or other students present, if they can gather here to discuss the political system issues in today's world, they must be people of status.
Although Li Ran, the former Luoyi Treasurer, was exposed at the beginning, his identity was revealed. But now after making such remarks, it is obvious that he has suddenly dropped several levels in the eyes of everyone! <
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Because in their view, these common people are still just common people, their vassals. What they deserve is to bear everything they should bear under the Zhou ritual system.
For them, the life and death of common people are like the falling leaves flying from spring to autumn. I have seen it, but I have not completely seen it. Where you fall and how you rot has nothing to do with me.
And this is actually the fundamental reason why both feudalism and monarchy are undesirable.