Chapter 1240. Must be, and can only be (thirteen).
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When Huang Ke asked again, Zhao Junchen was staring at Huang Ke thoughtfully.
Zhao Junchen did not expect that after hearing his derogatory remarks about those with vested interests, Huang Ke would appear happy and relieved.
Obviously, Huang Ke is instinctively disgusted with those who have vested interests in the rentier class.
In fact, no matter in ancient or modern times, at home and abroad, the vast majority of people will show strong disgust towards the vested interests of the rentier class, the so-called "privileged class".
But upon closer inspection, the source of this disgust is not that people really hate the various privileges possessed by those with vested interests, nor is it because the various privileges possessed by those with vested interests are based on the exploitation of the working people, but rather because
Mostly out of reluctance.
"Why am I not a vested interest?"
"Why don't I have any privileges?"
"Why can't I benefit from others?"
A very cruel fact is that if an opportunity to become a member of the privileged class is presented to the world, most people will betray their former class position without hesitation, happily become a member of the privileged class, and then become a member of the privileged class.
Will become a firm supporter of the views Li Shijie said.
From this aspect, what Li Shijie said is actually correct. The "loyalty" of the vast majority of people only stems from the fact that there is no chance of betrayal.
The instinct of human nature is to seek advantages and avoid disadvantages, but the four words "seek advantages and avoid disadvantages" are often the opposite meaning of "loyalty and firmness".
Therefore, Zhao Junchen never expected that Huang Ke would hate the vested interests of the rentier class from the bottom of his heart.
As the inspector-general of Liaodong, even though Huang Ke was not favored by all forces and was squeezed out to serve in a bitter and cold place like Liaodong where the military forces had an absolute advantage, he could still be regarded as a high-ranking official of the imperial court. Naturally, he had a chance.
Let yourself and your family also become a rentier class with vested interests.
Therefore, Huang Ke should be naturally close to the rentier class.
However, Huang Ke is deeply disgusted with the vested interests of the rentier class, and he feels happy and relieved when he discovers the limitations of the vested interests. This disgust seems to come from instinct.
"Could it be that...this Huang Ke is born with revolutionary tendencies?"
Zhao Junchen couldn't help but think about it secretly, and he was also secretly surprised.
In ancient and modern times, at home and abroad, some people are born to be different, such as Wang Mang in the Han Dynasty, many martyrs of New China, such as the famous Castro in later generations... and so on.
These people were once members of the privileged class and could enjoy their privileges comfortably, but they were able to transcend the limitations of their own class in one fell swoop and view and transform the world from a higher dimension.
Take Castro of Cuba as an example. This man was born as a top landowner in Cuba, but he was born with sympathy for the proletariat and hated the privileged class. Before he was exposed to revolutionary theory, he was only thirteen years old.
, he began to organize his family's farm laborers to carry out a general strike. The first target of the revolution was his own family.
There are also many deeds of the martyrs of New China, which are even more touching.
Therefore, a person born with revolutionary tendencies has an instinctive dislike of the rentier class. Although this situation is rare, it is not particularly surprising.
However, in the current Chinese cultural atmosphere, if a person is born with this tendency, it will undoubtedly be extremely painful.
It's like a white lotus growing in the desert.
The current environment of the Ming Dynasty is not suitable for such people to survive at all, and the great theories that will be known to later generations of Chinese people did not appear at all in this era.
"If this is the case, it is no wonder that this person has changed his family many times!
Because by nature, he must feel that everything that happens in this world is unreasonable, but due to the limitations of the times, as well as the constraints and brainwashing of the Confucian concepts of the Three Cardinal Guidelines and Five Constant Beings, he is unable to explore the answer, and naturally feels deeply confused.
So, he first took refuge in Zhou Shangjing, then betrayed Zhou Shangjing and took refuge in Zhu Heyu, and finally betrayed Zhu Heyu and took refuge in Shen Changmao... This seemingly three-surnamed family slave practice actually stems from this Confused, he instinctively wanted to find the answer, but neither Zhou Shangjing, Zhu Heyu, nor Shen Changmao could give him a satisfactory answer, so in order to continue to search for the answer, he betrayed him without any thought. Hesitation... He will be easily impacted by Li Shijie's ideas, which is precisely due to this confusion..."
Thinking of this, Zhao Junchen looked at Huang Ke with complicated eyes and couldn't help but shake his head slightly.
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On the other side, looking at Zhao Junchen's expression and movements, he seemed to be distracted. Huang Ke was a little confused and reminded: "Zhao Gechen, is there something wrong with the official's inquiry?"
But at the next moment, Huang Ke seemed to have thought of something, and there was self-mockery in his expression, and he said with a bitter smile: "Yes, the official is called a slave of the third surname by many people, and his reputation has long been ruined by changing families many times... Therefore, in Zhao Gechen's opinion, it must be very ridiculous that a person like Xiaguan would care so much about the word 'loyalty'."
Having said this, Huang Ke felt a little sad and planned to say goodbye and leave.
But Zhao Junchen waved his hand gently and said: "Master Huang, you are overthinking this. I have never thought that your attitude is ridiculous... I also know about your past experiences! But I think that if you and Zhou Shoufu , His Royal Highness, they have different ideas, but that is just because they have different views and do not work together. How can it be considered a betrayal? In fact, as long as your position of being loyal to the country and the country does not change, I will not doubt your loyalty and firmness! "
Hearing what Zhao Junchen said, Huang Ke's eyes suddenly lit up and he looked at Zhao Junchen with an excited expression, as if he had found a confidant. He wanted to say something, but couldn't.
At this time, if Zhao Junchen is willing to have a heart-to-heart talk with Huang Ke and throw out some high-level opinions about the future, he is very likely to completely convince Huang Ke and make Huang Ke willing to follow him in the future.
But Zhao Junchen hesitated for a moment, but did not choose this approach. Instead, he changed the subject and began to answer Huang Ke's previous question.
"I was thoughtful just now because I was thinking about how to answer your question... This question is a little complicated."
Seeing that Zhao Junchen returned to the topic, Huang Ke quickly calmed down and listened attentively, but he didn't know that Zhao Junchen had just given up the great opportunity to win over him.
After Zhao Junchen paused, he continued: "First of all, it must be clear that the views expressed by Li Shijie are all derived from the perspective of interests, and the word 'loyalty' comes from faith, but interests The two are completely different things from belief, and there is an essential difference!
Therefore, analyzing the word "loyalty" from the perspective of interests is a very absurd thing in itself, and it will naturally lead to some specious and absurd conclusions!
Just like using Legalist theory to analyze Confucian ideas, the end result will naturally be that Confucian ideas are falsified. On the contrary, if Confucian theory is used to analyze Legalist ideas, the end result will be that Legalist ideas are useless!
There are many similar examples. If you use Buddhist theories to analyze Taoism, use Taoist theories to analyze Buddhism, use the concepts of nomadic people to analyze farming peoples, and use the perspectives of farming peoples to analyze nomadic peoples, the conclusions will all appear absurd.
, because this situation is unreasonable from the beginning!
If you discuss the emperor's life with remote farmers, those farmers might even think that the emperor plows the land with gold hoes!
In the final analysis, these theories are like an egg. If it were an egg, no matter how it was hatched, it would only hatch a chicken, never a duck, let alone a
A tiger comes out! Because these theories have their own logic, the conclusions drawn through the analysis of these theories will only conform to the concepts promoted by the theories themselves!"
After hearing Zhao Junchen's answer, Huang Ke suddenly realized again, and felt that a lot of doubts in his heart had dissipated.
But at the same time, Huang Ke still felt uneasy.
Just like what Zhao Junchen said, the rationality of loyalty comes from faith, and the rationality of betrayal comes from interests. So... can faith trump interests?
Huang Ke is essentially a realist, which is why he turned his back on the "princeling party" in the first place. It was precisely because of this kind of practical thinking that Huang Ke vaguely felt that it would be very difficult for faith to defeat interests.
It is easy, so the rationality of loyalty may not be stronger than the rationality of betrayal.
Zhao Junchen is also a realist. After seeing the change in Huang Ke's expression, he quickly guessed Huang Ke's thoughts.
So, without waiting for Huang Ke to ask again, Zhao Junchen said: "Actually, this court itself is more inclined to Li Shijie's evaluation of the word 'loyalty', believing that the vast majority of loyalty in the world is due to the interests of betrayal.
It’s not enough, or there was no chance of betrayal from the beginning!”
The most obvious example is the capitalists of later generations. People of later generations say that capitalists have no patriotism at all. Ultimately, it is because capitalists have more choices. They can enjoy a luxurious life in any country and there is no need to tie themselves to any country.
Zhao Junchen on the boat secretly added in his heart.
Then, Zhao Junchen ignored Huang Ke's surprised expression and said: "Actually, once analyzed in depth, the underlying reasons for everything in this world are very cruel!
Li Shijie has already talked about the virtues of loyalty, filial piety, benevolence and righteousness. So what do you think of 'filial piety'? In the final analysis, it is just an exchange of interests between parenting and old age care! What is 'benevolence'? What is 'righteousness'? People
Promoting these views is just because you are worried about damaging your own interests! Promoting these virtues is beneficial to everyone, so it is respected!
Haha! If there were no exchange of interests and consideration of costs, perhaps the world would not advocate virtues such as loyalty, filial piety, benevolence and righteousness! Just like in the ancient times when people drank hair and drank blood, there was no benefit in caring for the elderly and dying, so no one would advocate filial piety at all.
But these things are too cruel to say directly, so they must be decorated with beautiful words such as loyalty, filial piety, benevolence and righteousness to make it easier for the world to accept and more conducive to publicity, that’s all!”
Seeing that Huang Ke's three views were about to be impacted again, Zhao Junchen said: "But these things do not mean that we have to abandon these seemingly superficial good qualities, nor does it mean that these virtues are hypocritical and useless.
Things!
Mr. Huang, I would like to ask you again, what do you think is the most fundamental justice in this world?"
Huang Ke was stunned. He always believed that he should be on the side of justice, because the actions of Zhou Shangjing, Zhu Heyu and others were not in line with the justice in his mind. They did not hesitate to betray continuously and completely ruin their reputation. But he also always believed that he should be on the side of justice.
It was because he was confused and had not found a just answer. Coupled with his confused thinking at this time, he was even more unable to answer Zhao Junchen's inquiry.
Fortunately, Zhao Junchen did not ask further questions, but directly gave the answer, saying: "I believe that it is the will of the people. To put it bluntly, nothing can go against a person's nature and instinct!
Food and sex are also related to food and sex. You can't make everyone go without food, and you can't make everyone become eunuchs. This is human nature! Once it goes against human nature, no matter how fanciful or rigorous the theory is, it will not work.
It must be wrong!
Therefore, whether it is Li Shijie’s evaluation of ‘loyalty’ or my evaluation just now of ‘filial piety’, ‘benevolence’ and ‘righteousness’, they are all wrong no matter how you put them!
Because by nature, people are completely unable to accept these cruel and cold concepts, and they also need virtues such as loyalty, filial piety, benevolence and righteousness to protect themselves. People are willing to accept these virtues, promote these virtues, and follow these virtues, so these virtues are the most fundamental justice in the world.
, it is not wrong in any case. If you say they are hypocritical and useless, it is equivalent to violating human nature...
Oh, once it violates human nature, it is no longer a real 'person'. Since it is not even a person, who has the right to evaluate loyalty, filial piety, benevolence and righteousness, which are uniquely human things?"
Hearing this, Huang Ke felt like he had an epiphany. The confusion caused by Li Shijie's remarks was finally cleared away.
"Listening to a cabinet minister's words is worth ten years of studying! Not only will I benefit a lot from being a minister, but I will die in the morning after hearing the truth! Please also ask cabinet minister Zhao to pay homage to me!"
After saying that, Huang Ke was about to salute Zhao Junchen, but Zhao Junchen got up in time to stop him.
Then, after Zhao Junchen patted Huang Ke's arm, he put his hands behind his hands and strolled: "Actually, I have told Mr. Huang so many truths, but in the final analysis, there is still one question that remains unanswered, and that is... this
There are really too many principles and concepts in the world. These principles and opinions all have merits and are logically rigorous, but they contradict and conflict with each other... Under such circumstances, which principle and concept should we choose to follow?
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Huang Ke was stunned again. He had never considered these things, but he felt that Zhao Junchen's question pointed directly at the biggest confusion deep in his heart.
So, Huang Ke thought for a long time, and finally shook his head and smiled bitterly: "I don't know!"
Zhao Junchen said: "Actually, I don't know either! But here are two ways to reduce this confusion.
One is to first think about where your butt will sit, and then let your butt decide your head!
Hey, the saying "butt determines head" has always been regarded as derogatory, but as I said before, there are too many truths in this world, but they are often contradictory.
The truth is that the public is right and the mother-in-law is right, that is, there is no result without a position, so it is not wrong that the butt determines the head. The important thing is whether your butt is sitting in the right position."
Huang Ke was thoughtful, and then asked: "So... Zhao Gechen, what is your position? What ideas have you chosen for your own use based on your position?"
Zhao Junchen shook his head and said calmly: "I have no position, and I have not used this method to seek direction for myself. What I have done is another method... that is, all ideas can be used by me. If
If a point of view is good for me, I will promote this point of view. If a point of view is not good for me, I will reject this point of view, that's all!
If you really have to choose a position, it should be the position of looking at the overall situation!"
Or, he was only loyal to his own position. Zhao Junchen secretly added in his heart again.
Hearing what Zhao Junchen said, Huang Ke couldn't help but feel a little disappointed.
He still hopes that Zhao Junchen can have a clear position so that he can have some reference.
After all, Huang Ke didn't like the position of the nobles represented by Confucianism, the ruler's position represented by Legalism, or the position of vested interests represented by Li Shijie's materialism.
As for the position of "looking at the overall situation", Huang Ke believes that he is not qualified yet.
However, Zhao Junchen's various remarks still benefited Huang Ke a lot, and Huang Ke also admired him greatly and his goodwill greatly increased.
Especially the courage shown by Zhao Junchen when he saw the problem clearly, Huang Ke had only seen it from Zhou Shangjing before.
Huang Ke even vaguely felt that Zhao Junchen was more profound and far-sighted in thinking about problems than Zhou Shangjing. This was a matter of course. Although Zhao Junchen was not as powerful as Zhou Shangjing in his machinations, he stood on the shoulders of countless giants after all.
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In any case, Huang Ke believed that Zhao Junchen was a wise man whom he could not yet match.
Huang Ke has not yet found his own position, so he has a desire to surrender in his heart.
In Huang Ke's view, no matter from any angle, taking refuge in Zhao Junchen is a good thing for him. Zhao Junchen has strength, vision, and ambition, and he has no prejudice against him, not to mention Zhao Junchen's reputation.
The evaluation has also been gradually reversed. It is no longer as messy as before, and has entered a stage of mixed praise and praise.
So, Huang Ke secretly observed Zhao Junchen and said: "As the ancients said, every word is a teacher, that is, even if you teach a word, you are still a teacher! And Zhao Gechen, your explanation of the doubts and objections of the subordinates today is enough to surpass
Thousands of words! It can be said to be a great kindness!
Although Zhao Gechen is young, with these teachings, he is also a mentor in the eyes of the official! Therefore, from today on, the official is willing to follow him with all his strength and do his best!"
What Huang Ke said was quite suggestive of surrender, but after this conversation, although Zhao Junchen also had a lot of favorable impressions of Huang Ke, he was even more afraid to accept Huang Ke.
At least, not as a true confidant.
Because Zhao Junchen knew very well that no matter what position Huang Ke finally chose, and no matter whether Huang Ke was born with a revolutionary tendency, it was definitely not in line with his own path.
Huang Ke is a very contradictory person. He is confused and determined at the same time. He doesn't know what his path is, so he can easily join any force to try, and he can also be easily impacted by new ideas, but he knows very well that his path is not
What, so once you find that the force you are attached to is different from the path in your mind, you will resolutely choose to leave.
Therefore, once the two people cooperate more and more, Huang Ke will sooner or later be unable to tolerate some of Zhao Junchen's actions, and then he will resolutely choose to abandon Zhao Junchen just like he once chose to abandon Zhou Shangjing and Zhu Heyu.
This is also the real reason why Zhao Junchen did not take the opportunity to win over Huang Ke just now, because Zhao Junchen was unwilling to do useless work. He knew very well that even if he temporarily deceived Huang Ke with some great truth and made Huang Ke give up in a short period of time, Huang Ke
Ke will betray when he should!
Even if Zhao Junchen uses some kind of truth to deceive Huang Ke, the more beautiful the truth sounds, the faster and more determined Huang Ke will be when he sees Zhao Junchen repeatedly violating the truth he said in the future.
Betray Zhao Junchen.
However, Huang Ke is a talent after all, and he has a firm will to go to Hushan. Therefore, although Zhao Junchen dare not accept Huang Ke as his confidant, he is willing to accept Huang Ke's surrender and is more willing to reuse and promote Huang Ke.
After all, most of the people under Zhao Junchen are cunning people who are well versed in seeking advantages and avoiding disadvantages. They avoid those thankless tasks, which can be left to Huang Ke!
Thinking of this, Zhao Junchen held Huang Ke's hands, his expression full of joy and trust, and said: "That's great, I have longed for Mr. Huang for a long time. If I can have Mr. Huang's full support, it will definitely be
Even more powerful than a tiger!"
As he spoke, Zhao Junchen had already conceived everything, including what thankless and difficult tasks he would give to Huang Ke in the future, how he should delay Huang Ke's betrayal of him as much as possible, and how he would stop Huang Ke once he betrayed him.