There are one hill and eight buildings in the Northern Prefecture of the Eastern Jin Dynasty Chapter 2608 Relatives, friends and brothers all oppose the war
Chapter 2608 Relatives, friends and brothers all oppose the war
Liu Yi gritted his teeth and said in a deep voice: "Send slaves, don't be impulsive. Nanyan is a big country with hundreds of thousands of soldiers and tens of thousands of cavalry. It cannot be destroyed in one battle so easily. If you want to make great achievements, don't bet on it.
The national destiny of Jin."
He Wuji also frowned: "Jinnu, what Xi Le said makes sense, don't be vindictive. We don't have the strength to start a full-scale war with Nan Yan and destroy them in one fell swoop. It's better to think about this matter in the long term."
Liu Yu looked around and said calmly: "Since today is a major court meeting, everyone can express their opinions. I only made a suggestion. My best and most loyal brother does not agree with it. He is in a high position and the last
What I'm afraid of is that there are only a bunch of sycophants around, and they can't hear the truth. So now I want to hear everyone's real thoughts. Except for the current officials in our military government, everyone can express their opinions. Who will do the Northern Expedition to Southern Yan?
Agree, who is against?”
Liu Yu turned his attention to He Wuji: "Wuji, you just said that we don't have the strength to go to war with Nanyan, so we are opposed to sending troops. Can you be more specific?"
He Wuji gritted his teeth: "This is obvious at a glance. The country has experienced many years of civil war, and now there is still no peace in various places. The only place that is considered stable is Wu, but it is in disgrace. Production has not recovered yet.
We need to mobilize manpower to support the six counties in Jiangbei. Even if we can temporarily mobilize an army of 60,000 to 80,000 people, food and grass are a big problem. Jiangbei will only be able to farm for about a year. According to our promise, we will not collect taxes for three years.
, this means that there has been no food supply for the army in Jiangbei for three years, and we really don’t have the conditions to fight this war now."
Liu Yu nodded and looked at Liu Daogui, who had been silent all the time: "Daogui, tell me."
Liu Daogui sighed: "Brother, since you made this proposal in public today, I think it must have been carefully considered, but in my opinion, it is even more important to dissuade me, because the last expedition to Xishu faced many challenges.
I encountered a similar situation and made the same mistake again, and I don’t think I can make it a second time.”
Liu Yu said in a deep voice: "To be more specific, are you worried about Nanyan getting foreign aid?"
Liu Daogui nodded: "Yes, if our army wants to conquer Nanyan, it will inevitably require nationwide mobilization, at least large-scale mobilization in the Yangzhou area, recruitment of troops, and food adjustment. This is indispensable. If I want to do what I just said,
To destroy Yan, we must at least organize an army of more than 100,000 people, because Nan Yan’s military strength is very strong, and it cannot be destroyed without an army of more than 100,000 people.”
Liu Yu smiled slightly: "The Taoist analysis is good. To destroy Yan, a hundred thousand troops are needed. However, if we mobilize quickly and take the breakthrough of Daxian Mountain as the first stage goal, we can slightly less, sixty to eighty thousand troops."
, maybe it can be dispatched."
Liu Daogui gritted his teeth: "Whether it's 60,000 or 100,000, it's a big army. It needs to be mobilized and recruited on a large scale, including the transportation of grain and grass. This kind of thing cannot be hidden from Nanyan's reconnaissance. According to common sense, they will follow the same situation as the year before last."
Like the Western Shu Army, they marched out of the Daxian Mountains and relied on dangers. Only tens of thousands of troops could block our army in the south of the mountain. Then they sent out their cavalry to loot the rear and cut off our food routes. Then our army would attack.
If you can't, it will be difficult to retreat, and you will fall into what military strategists call a desperate situation."
"When our army loses its energy, lacks food and fodder, and is forced to retreat, and Nan Yan sends out his cavalry to pursue him, then instead of being unable to destroy Nan Yan, our army will run the risk of being annihilated. It is precisely because I have experienced such a failure before.
, and the Murong clan of Yan State also used such a trick to defeat Huan Wen, so I must express my opinion that this Northern Expedition is extremely risky, the chance of winning is not high, and is not advisable!"
Having said this, Liu Daogui sighed: "Furthermore, given our current relationship with Later Qin, Nanyan has just formed an alliance with Later Qin, and even took the initiative to become a vassal state of Later Qin. If we attack Nanyan, Later Qin will
They will definitely come to rescue us. When the time comes, whether they attack our Yongzhou area or send troops to the Nanyan area to help defend it, it will become a big variable just like the last battle to pacify Shu."
Liu Yu nodded: "Your analysis is very good. There is Daxian Mountain in the south of Nanyan, and there may be reinforcements from Hou Qin in the west and north. These two points are factors we need to consider. Dao regulations
My suggestion is not to fight, does anyone else have any opinions?"
Xu Xianzhi curled his lips and said, "Jinu, I also think it's best not to fight this battle."
Liu Yu said softly "Oh": "What's the noble opinion of Xianzhi?"
Xu Xianzhi sighed: "I'm not very good at military matters, and I don't dare to say much. The generals just said it very well. If the purpose of this battle is to destroy Yan, then we must raise a large army.
Whether it is 60,000 or 100,000, a large amount of food and grass is needed, and this food and grass is not currently stationed in Dacang, Pengcheng. The food and grass there has always only been enough for an army of 10,000 for three months. Every three months, it must be sent from the rear.
The new shipment of food and grass has passed by. Ten thousand people are still like this. If it were a large army, it would only increase tenfold."
Liu Yu nodded: "Food is indeed a big problem, but it is not unsolvable. Both Jiankang and Guangling have enough food for 30,000 troops to eat for the first half of the year. If we really want to raise a large army, we will use these stored grains."
Xu Xianzhi shook his head: "In addition to food and grass, there are also ordnance and cloth. These are all issues that must be considered. After the last Western Expedition, 50,000 troops and equipment were left in Jingzhou and Jiangzhou. Jiankang
The arsenal in the city is almost empty, and there are less than 30,000 armored soldiers. Even if there is a new recruitment, at most 30,000 sets of equipment can be supplied to the new recruits. In other words, in addition to the 30,000 troops scattered in Jiangbei, Guangling City has 10,000 soldiers and horses.
, Jiankang City’s 20,000 soldiers and horses, plus 30,000 sets of ordnance, are not enough to support 100,000 people.”
Liu Yu smiled slightly: "Xianzhi has been in charge of the treasury for many years and knows all about these situations. According to you, even if we mobilize to the maximum extent in the Yangzhou area, we will only have less than 100,000 soldiers, horses, food and grass, and at most three or four
It’s enough for a month, right?”
Xu Xianzhi gritted his teeth: "These are military secrets and should not be discussed openly, but since it is a meeting of the great dynasty and we have to decide on the battle and defense, we cannot hide anything. Jinu, you are the general of the country and the commander of the first army. You must make some decisions.
Knowing our own family background, maybe our soldiers are brave enough to fight, but no matter how brave the soldiers are, they still need food, grass and weapons to fight. If Nanyan adopts the strategy of clearing the country with strong walls and guarding Daxian Mountain, our army will not be able to obtain food and grass by quickly defeating the enemy.
, I'm afraid it will be like the attack on Shu, where we will have to run out of food and retreat in three months. Send slaves, don't act out of emotion in this battle!"