There are one hill and eight buildings in the Northern Prefecture of the Eastern Jin Dynasty Chapter 4972: What is the importance of family background and talent?
Chapter 4972: What is the importance of family background and talent?
Liu Muzhi smiled slightly: "These aristocratic noble families have not existed since the founding of the world. Chen Sheng and Wu Guang said when they started the uprising, would kings, generals, and ministers rather have their own kind? After all, there are still many ordinary people in the world, and scholars
If there are few people, they always want to ride on others' heads for thousands of generations, which will inevitably arouse public anger, and eventually they will be overthrown and dynasties will be changed. Haven't we learned the lessons of the rise and fall of past dynasties?"
Tao Yuanming sneered: "If it's just ordinary people who are revolting, they have neither knowledge nor enough weapons, nor necessary military training. They are nothing more than ants. They will only become military achievements for the officers and soldiers, and there is nothing to fear."
, you should know that from the Five Emperors in ancient times to the Warring States and Pre-Qin Dynasty, for thousands of years, how have these bandits and rebels from ordinary people ever succeeded? They were all suppressed by the king and his army, and there was not even a name for the leader of the uprising.
He was a so-called bandit who barely left his name in history, but what happened to him? He just occupied a few small towns, and wasn't he destroyed in the end?!"
Yu Yue was obviously interested in this topic and continued: "So, Chen Sheng and Wu Guang are the first uprising to leave a name in history. Ah, no, should we say he is the leader of the rebels?"
Tao Yuanming nodded: "Yes, they are rebel leaders, but they are not ordinary people. Chen Sheng is the garrison commander who can lead nine hundred people, and Wu Guang is his deputy. Both of them are powerful men who run rampant. As for
Liu Bang and Xiang Yu, the leaders of these rebels in the late Qin Dynasty, were either powerful local landowners or old aristocrats from the Six Kingdoms. They did not have real common people. It was precisely because of the leadership of these powerful and noble nobles that the chaos in the late Qin Dynasty was able to change dynasties. To put it bluntly,
, this is not a victory for the common people, but a change of dynasties for the nobility and scholars."
Liu Muzhi said coldly: "But the vast majority of people who participated in the uprising were ordinary people. At most, the leaders had some talents and organizational skills. Liu Bang was only a pavilion chief, and his family background was not as good as that of a slave.
, how did you become a noble scholar? Mr. Tao, what you said is too far-fetched."
Tao Yuanming laughed: "This is the power of the gentry. Brother Mu, although Liu Bang is a pavilion chief, he can make people like Xiao He, the county magistrate, willing to follow him. Just like Liu Yu, he is just an upright person, but he is the leader of the entire Jingkou."
The eldest brother in people's hearts is not only his martial arts and loyalty, but more importantly, his leadership and organizational skills. When he was in Jingkou, he had a group of brothers who were willing to follow him. Like Liu Yi, they were all in Jingkou.
Even after joining the Beifu Army, Liu Jingxuan was obviously more popular than Liu Jingxuan, whose martial arts skills were not inferior to him. This kind of leadership power was passed down from generation to generation in his Liu Yu family, descending from his distant ancestor King Chu, and continues to this day.
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Having said this, Tao Yuanming paused: "Needless to say Mr. Yu, the Yu family is a distinguished family and a high-ranking family. Although your brother Mu was once in a state of decline, he was also the eldest son of the Han Emperor Liu Bang, after King Liu Fei of Qi.
The bloodline is noble, but Tao is not talented. Although his family has fallen into decline, the ancestor of our family, Kan Gong, once made Jingzhou famous and was admired by the world. The noble bloodline of these ancestors has been passed down to us. This is why the three of us are sitting here today.
Here’s the reason for the spiel.”
Liu Muzhi suddenly burst out laughing, laughing and waving his hands. The two people sitting across from him, Yu Yue, had a puzzled look on his face and his eyes widened, while Tao Yuanming sat calmly on the table without saying a word.
It wasn't until Liu Muzhi had laughed like this for several minutes, almost collapsing on the ground with laughter, that Yu Yue coughed dryly, with some dissatisfaction in his tone: "Brother Mu, why are you laughing? Although you are my husband,
But now we are not above the court, you are like this, a little, a little that, um, it is unbecoming of etiquette."
This last sentence, Yu Yue still showed the style of a son of aristocratic family and said it through gritted teeth, because after all, his current status is already different from that of Liu Muzhi, the father-in-law of the dynasty. What's more,
Needless to say, Tao Yuanming, who is now in a white body or even a body facing sin, understands.
Liu Muzhi slowly stopped laughing and sat up straight. His fat face was already red and his fat was still beating slightly, but he gradually calmed down his breathing and said: "I just thought of
It's quite rude, Mr. Yu, Mr. Tao, I can speak."
Tao Yuanming said expressionlessly: "Brother Mu, it's okay to say it. Today we are just chatting as friends. No matter what you say, it won't hurt our friendship."
Liu Muzhi said seriously: "Okay, then forgive me for being rude. The Yu Gong family has been famous for generations, but it only became famous during the Wei and Jin Dynasties. From the Spring and Autumn Period to the Han Dynasty, the Yu family did not produce any famous people, let alone top-notch people."
Aristocratic family, Mr. Yu, although my words are offensive, there should be no problem."
Yu Yue was obviously unhappy and said coldly: "Yes, our Yu family did rise after the Wei and Jin Dynasties, but although your brother Mu is after the King of Qi Liu Fei, after the King of Qi died in the Lu Family Rebellion,
, up to your generation, it has been more than 500 years, and there have been no outstanding figures. My Yu family has produced a prime minister and a queen. I am afraid that your brother Liu's family does not even have a governor.
Come out."
Liu Muzhi smiled slightly: "Yes, you are right. Therefore, the noble blood of my ancestor, King Qi, has not made my ancestors prosperous and wealthy for more than four hundred years, and your Yu family
, If we follow what Tao Gong said just now, it would be that he suddenly rose up from the common people and became a scholar, and in the troubled times, he traveled south and made contributions and became a high-ranking family. It is the descendants of your Yu family who have honored their ancestors, and
It’s not the blood of our ancestors that makes your Yu family rich, but I am not talented, and I am also the first person in our Han Qi family to hold the position of prime minister in five hundred years. So it is the blood of my ancestors that makes me noble.
, but our achievements have made our ancestors proud?"
Yu Yue was speechless, but Liu Muzhi's gaze was as sharp as a cold arrow, directed at Tao Yuanming: "As for Tao Gong, the noble ancestor Kan Gong you just mentioned was a county official back then, but because he was from a mountainous nation, he
Therefore, he is looked down upon by the people of the time, at least until his talk about public affairs is developed and his reputation spreads all over the world, he cannot be said to have any noble bloodline!"
"But in the eyes of others, this foreign commoner, a small official in the state and county, relied on his own talents to make great contributions in troubled times and during the turbulent times, helping the country and becoming a famous minister. What's even more rare is that
, even the princes of the clan and the children of the aristocratic families were rebelling. When they were rebelling, even noble nobles like Wang Dun were rebelling in the land of Jingzhou, but Kan Gong insisted on his ministerial integrity and was loyal to the emperor and served the country. May I ask about your ancestor's behavior?
Is it more important to prove one’s noble bloodline, or is it more important to prove one’s own talent and the opportunities of the times?” ()