Guo Rong was not surprised at all and said bluntly: "Tell me what you think."
Luo Youdu nodded and said: "Zhang Fuyuan has a strong temper and believes in the Legalist concept of ordering troubled times, so he attaches great importance to strict laws and regulations, one carrot after another, and uses the law to restrain all people. However, Lu Facao pays attention to education and believes that only by changing people's minds,
Let them know their own shame, which has the effect of doing nothing. Therefore, they focus on ideas, while Chen is not so enlightened and forward-thinking, but a very pragmatic person. Everything is based on profit first, regardless of strict or lenient laws, whoever
No matter who you use, who is more suitable to use whom. All laws, Confucianism and Taoism are just tools, and whoever is good will follow."
"Therefore, I think that the two Shangguan's ideas are advisable, but not pragmatic enough."
Guo Rong was also a pragmatic emperor, and he was even more interested. He couldn't wait to say: "Tell me in detail."
Luo Youdu said: "First of all, lenient laws are not advisable, and the death penalty is even more indispensable. It is said to be light in name but heavy in reality. I believe that the effects of lenient laws are not conscious, but more of a matter of indifference. The price of this crime is too low.
, on the contrary, it is more likely to cause crimes, cause innocent people to suffer, and cause greater harm to people's livelihood. Therefore, Chen Qun in the late Han Dynasty had a saying that officials agreed with very much, 'If the name is light, it is easy to commit crimes, but if it is serious, it will hurt the people.'"
"Secondly, strict laws are not advisable. Wei Zheng, a famous minister of the Tang Dynasty, said, 'It's not about big complaints, but about people. It's advisable to be cautious when carrying a boat and overturning it.'" Too strict laws can easily accumulate public resentment and create turmoil in temples. The world is uncertain.
The barbarians are not convinced. Excessive restraint will cause immeasurable consequences."
What Luo Youdu said here is very subtle.
Of course Guo Rong understood. It was only a matter of accumulating public dissatisfaction, but more importantly, it was creating turmoil in the temple.
If the restrictions are too much, it is not the people who are sad, but the civil and military ministers in the temple.
Especially those arrogant warriors with little culture.
The brainless fools like them are driven into a hurry, and their brains can easily get distracted, and when their blood energy rises, they can do some unpredictable things.
If Luo Youdu dared to bully Zhao Kuangyi like this, he must have realized that Zhao Kuangyin was not an ordinary reckless man. If it were someone like Xu Chu, he would not have time to hide.
Otherwise, Xu You will end up in trouble.
Guo Rong frowned and said: "According to what you said, lenient laws are not advisable, and harsh punishment is not advisable. Do you want to compromise and choose the middle?"
It's too stupid to choose between the two.
"Of course not!" Luo Youdu was naturally not stupid and said, "I thought it meant both strictness and leniency."
Guo Rong became more energetic and asked: "What does it mean to be strict and lenient at the same time?"
Luo Youdu said: "Common crimes are punished with severe punishments. Because they are often committed, they are common. Therefore, they must be punished severely to rectify the world. Severe punishment is not the purpose, but virtue. In order to protect the people and maintain public order, punishment is to avoid punishment.
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"It is a crime that may or may not be killed. The punishment should be lenient. If you choose not to kill, it will reflect your majesty's kindness, and it will also increase your efforts."
"Abolition of cruel methods of execution such as chariot-breaking, roasting, and burning, and replacing them with beheading, beheading, or hanging, in order to gain a good reputation for His Majesty."
Many cruel criminal laws were abolished during the Han and Tang Dynasties, but the great turmoil of the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms caused many things to be revived.
"Change the death sentence to one trial, two trials and three trials to demonstrate the Confucian principle of cautious killing and capture the hearts of scholars all over the world for Your Majesty. Secondly, those who commit multiple crimes will be severely punished. Criminals who commit crimes, no matter how serious they are, should be kept on record. Those who commit multiple crimes will not be treated.
Depending on the severity, severe punishments should be imposed, repeated over and over again. Those who refuse to change despite repeated admonitions may be killed."
"In the end, there will be no mercy for the most evil people. For those who have committed the most evil crimes, there is no way to kill them too much."
The more Guo Rong listened, the brighter his eyes became. Compared with Zhang Yue's strict laws, Lu Bin's teachings and lenient punishments were more popular with Luo Youdu. He couldn't help but praise: "Wonderful! The way to legislate is to combine strictness and leniency."
Someone is coming..."
Guo Rong suddenly called out: "Ci Luo is engaged in soft chair seating. I want to have a long talk with him."
Luo Youdu quickly stood up and thanked him. His body was accustomed to kneeling and sitting, and his legs did not feel numb after sitting for a long time. However, sitting on his knees was not as comfortable as sitting on a chair.
Sitting on the soft chair, Luo Youdu straightened his back a little.
Guo Rong asked some more questions about criminal law.
Luo Youdu responded fluently.
In fact, the "Dazhong Criminal Code" promulgated during the reign of Emperor Xuanzong of the Tang Dynasty is already very humane. After all, everything will change in accordance with the times after thousands of years of development. Things that are divorced from reality have long been eliminated by history.
Luo Youdu memorized "Dazhong Criminal Code" and supplemented it with some advanced views accepted by this era, which was an eye-opener for Guo Rong.
Guo Rong looked at Luo Youdu who was answering freely and suddenly asked: "I have been worried about something recently, but I don't know if Luo is engaged in administration. Is he involved in it?"
Luo Youdu responded without hesitation: "Excuse me, Your Majesty, I dare not hide my secrets."
Guo Rong said with a bitter face: "Everyone in the world thinks that it is good to be the emperor, but no one knows my plight. I am not afraid of Luo's jokes. Apart from the dragon robe of the previous court, I don't have any good clothes. The Central Plains is in turmoil, and the people are in dire straits.
Refugees need relief, and foreign troops have to be supported. The Central Plains has been plagued by wars for many years, and finances are seriously tight. I am living a miserable life!"
Luo Youdu laughed secretly when he heard this.
Chai Rong in history is indeed a bit miserable.
To be precise, in the chaos of the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms, it is impossible to live well if you want to be a wise king.
Facing the military governors who hold heavy troops, should we support them or not?
Facing the proud soldiers and generals in the temple, should we reward them or not?
Faced with a dilapidated building that was looted by insurgents, should we repair it or not?
Facing the hungry and disaster victims, should we save them or not?
All this costs money.
Chai Rong wants to be Li Shimin, but he can only suffer himself.
Luo Youdu said: "If you want to restructure the economy of the Great Zhou Dynasty, the first thing you need to do is to issue coins of the Great Zhou Dynasty. It has been four years since the founding of the Great Zhou Dynasty, but the popular coins on the market are still Tongbao from the Tang Dynasty. There are even coins from Liang, Tang, and
The bad coins of the Jin and Han Dynasties and the chaotic currency in the market are the biggest sources of hindering economic development. If these sources are not eliminated, it will be extremely difficult for the Zhou economy to improve."
Chai Rong sighed and said: "What I said is to the point. I just want to solve the currency problem. How easy is it? Our territory in Dazhou is not rich in copper. The income from copper production every year, excluding the supply from all aspects, does not have much surplus.
.It is all used to make coins, and it is not as good as the share of old money exchanged from the hands of the people. Changing it rashly will only cause market turmoil, but will make the people lose confidence in my Dazhou coins."
Chai Rong had already discussed this with prime ministers Fan Zhi, Li Gu and Wang Pu.
They are all famous officials, so there is no reason why they cannot see through it.
Luo Youdu said with burning eyes: "The Central Plains is not actually without copper, it's just that no one has taken it."
Chai Rong asked eagerly: "Where can I find copper?"
Luo Youdu said calmly: "Temple, Buddha statues, none of them weighs three to five hundred kilograms!"