Xun Or looked at Sun Quan's back and was silent for a moment.
"He is Sun Jian's second son and Sun Ce's younger brother?"
"Yes." Liu Xie nodded and sat in the seat. Although the carriage was spacious, he was a little uncomfortable.
In recent years, he usually rode a horse when he went out and rarely took a car. Today, at the request of Mrs. Tang, he went to attend the book recommendation club as a scholar, so he could only take a car.
"Your Majesty calls the man around you instead of calling him a name?"
Seeing Xun or his serious expression, Liu Xie was stunned for a moment and then smiled. "I'm used to it." He thought about it and said seriously: "Jun Xun, Sanqi is not an ordinary man. In the court, they were mine.
Personal bodyguards. On the battlefield, they are my last guarantee. In the future, they will be the generals who will take charge of the country. Such people should hold the power of life and death, respect people, and be respected, otherwise they may be
Life loses its due awe and acts recklessly by force.”
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Xun Or suddenly realized and nodded gently. "What Your Majesty said makes people suddenly enlightened. People are not rude in heaven. The reason why they become savage is because they are not educated. If everything they see and hear is respected by force, he
When you hold the force in your hand, it is indeed difficult to be in awe of life."
"It's not just force." Liu Xie corrected: "To be precise, it's power. When Zhang Jian killed Hou Lan's whole family, he relied on power, and invisible power. An inspector thought that he could hold justice in his hands.
The idea of destroying the family and destroying the clan is simply terrifying and creepy."
Xun Or frowned even more. "Hou Lan is a disaster to the country and the people, shouldn't he be killed?"
"It should be killed, but you can't kill it like this." Liu Xie said calmly: "If he can really go to prison and sacrifice himself for justice like Li Ying, I respect him as a man. He ran away after killing, because he felt that he was a man.
Justice is cheap, doesn’t it cost? I really want to ask, if he knows that he can’t escape, will he dare to kill someone?"
Xun may be silent.
He had considered this issue.
Although they were both party members, he did not agree with Zhang Jian's approach. First, the murder was too rash, and second, the escape was too wide, which not only caused too much damage to the Confucian clan, but also aroused the emperor's vigilance.
The rise of the Party and the Forbidden City has a great relationship with this matter.
Emperor Xiaohuan, who could have maintained a little tolerance for scholars' discussions, found that scholars could actually ignore the laws of the court and ignore their own safety, and cover up a murderer to escape from the border thousands of miles away. He felt deep fear and turned to the party members.
Carry out severe crackdowns.
As the party and the party members became deeper and deeper, and gradually became incompatible.
Realizing that the dialogue between him and the emperor also had the possibility of intensification from the beginning, Xun may swallow his rude words and deliberately eased his tone. "So Your Majesty insisted on governing the country by law, and if there is law, it must be followed?"
"Of course." Liu Xie slightly pointed his head and also eased his tone. "What is law? Law is the agreement between the court and the subjects of the world. Since it is an agreement, it should be followed and cannot be easily destroyed. People cannot establish without trust, so how can the country not be able to do so?
It’s not impossible to be honest. It’s not impossible to deal with illegal things, but you can’t expect any price at all, so it’s probably unrealistic.”
He paused for a moment and gave his attitude clearly. "So, in terms of this matter, I respect Li Ying, but I do not agree with Zhang Jian."
Xun may breathe a sigh of relief.
Li Ying is the leader of the Ruying Party. The emperor expressed his recognition of Li Ying in front of him, which is to show his attitude. He is not good at things and will not treat the party members equally.
Although his recognition of Li Ying only refers to this matter.
"What if there is a law that does not follow, or there is an evil law?"
"These are two problems: if there is a law, you can deal with people who do not follow the law according to the law. If there is a bad law, it will be a little more trouble."
“How to bother?”
"The first trouble is how to define the law as an evil law? The second trouble is how to correct the evil law and enable the removal of old evil without the creation of new evil. If it is simply gone, or it is suspended in the
If you have laws but do not follow them, it is by no means the way to govern the country.”
Xun's face turned red, but pretended not to hear it.
The emperor's words are obviously a change in "The records of prefectures and counties are like thunderbolts. If you get an edict, you can hang a wall."
Local officials abusing power and ignoring the imperial edicts is also one of the bad habits of party members that the emperor hates. Zong Cheng was implicated in the escape from the case and was severely punished for exile in the Western Regions. This is a manifestation of the emperor's will and a warning to party members.
It should be said that this warning played a role. Situ and Sikong governments jointly convened relevant personnel to discuss the matter, which was caused by this.
The emperor knew his purpose, so he said frankly, hoping that he could convey this meaning to everyone so that they would not have unrealistic fantasies.
But it’s not that the emperor’s view is cautious.
The state has national laws, and the family has family rules. Family rules cannot be easily changed, so how can national laws be joking and change them as soon as possible?
You cannot easily draw conclusions whether it is an evil law. You must be more cautious when correcting the law.
"You dare to ask your Majesty, how can you avoid evil laws?"
"In my opinion, evil laws cannot be generalized." Liu Xie relaxed his body, leaned on his back, and supported his forehead with his hands. "Some laws are inherently evil, and they were meant to do evil at the beginning of their formulation. Such laws are not
Even if it is urgent to be in power, it should be dismissed as soon as possible after completing the mission, otherwise it will be backfired."
"for example?"
"For example, Shang Yang's farming war."
Xun Or held his breath, and after a moment, he vomited it gently, with a smile on his face.
The emperor does not agree with the Legalist law, which is undoubtedly good news.
In any case, no one hopes that the Han Dynasty will repeat the mistakes of the destruction of Qin. Many people oppose rule of law, which is essentially not against law, but against Qin law.
If the emperor said that rule the country by law is ruled by Qin, then he would fight for it even if he fought hard.
"What kind of evil laws are there?"
"Times change, things change, and no longer adapt to the situation." Liu Xie turned to look at Xun Ren, with a smile on his lips. "For example, if the punishment is not given to the doctor, the courtesy is not given to the common people. Such rules are in the spring and autumn of the nobles and the wealth of the people.
Perhaps it has its value. Now it is no longer the Spring and Autumn Period. The prince breaks the law and commits the same crime as the common people, let alone the doctor."
Xun Or reminded in embarrassment: "Your Majesty, it is not the privilege of the doctors to punish the doctors, but the manifestation of the treatment of the king and the ministers with etiquette. A scholar can be killed but not humiliated. A scholar can violate the law, and the king can be sentenced to death, but not humiliated."
"I agree that scholars can be killed and not humiliated. But what cannot be humiliated is not only scholars, but also common people. All the people are scholars, and the world is the public. How can we distinguish between doctors and common people? Of course, we should treat them equally. Jun Xun, the king of Xun, should be treated equally.
When discussing matters with the two officials, you might as well put forward my point of view for discussion.”
He paused for a moment and emphasized his tone. "What is the result of Wang Mang's retro? I think Xun Jun also understands that he should not repeat the same mistakes. Since we need to discuss the new law, we should open up the pattern and break prejudices. We should not entangle and indulge ourselves. We should be demarcated by the saints.
A small circle is wandering around and creating a set of clauses that seem to be high-sounding but cannot be implemented.”