"Since Master Huan'an and His Highness Hojo called us back, they obviously want to ask for peace." Taiyuan Xuezhai immediately launched an offensive after everyone sat down, taking the initiative of the negotiation back into his own hands, "Then
, you have to prove your sincerity in negotiating, right? Tell me, what conditions the Hojo family is willing to give if they want our Imagawa family and Takeda family to withdraw their troops."
Hojo Uyasu was unmoved when he heard the words, while Hojo Genan cleared his throat and was about to speak. Imagawa Yoshimoto also roughly understood the division of labor between the Hojo family duo - Hojo Genan played the red face, and Hojo Ujiyasu played the bad face.
It is estimated that Hojo Genan will be the one to make any compromises, while Hojo Uyasu just needs to be responsible for the evil.
That being the case, whatever Hojo Ujiyasu says after that can be ignored.
"The area occupied by our army to the west of the Fuji River will be returned to the Imagawa family. The hostages of the wealthy families in the area, including the Kamahara family, will also be returned. In addition, all the grain and grass baggage that our army transported to the west of the Fuji River during this campaign will be donated to the Imagawa family.
In addition, we will compensate the Imagawa family with 30,000 koku and the Takeda family with 10,000 koku of food and grass as military expenses. What do you think?"
The four members of the Imagawa family and the Takeda family burst out laughing when they heard this. A moment later, Takeda Harunobu laughed loudly and cursed: "Are you sending beggars away?"
"Do you want love? I don't want it anymore!" Hojo Ujiyasu immediately slapped the table hard and retorted.
"The west of the Fuji River has been recaptured by us. The Kamahara family and other wealthy families have returned to the Imagawa family anyway. The grain and grass you mentioned as gifts to us have been seized by us. Even without negotiation, they are all ours."
Imagawa Yoshimoto cooperated with Takeda Harunobu and was responsible for the role of reasoning, "After all, if we let the Hojo family go back to save Odawara Castle, you will only give our two families 40,000 koku of food and grass? The castle town of Odawara Castle has been looted.
The loss will be 300,000 yuan, right?"
"Why do you say that the Takeda family will definitely win?" Hojo Ujiyasu said fiercely again, "My father has summoned the citizens of Odawara Castle to defend the territory, and everyone has issued weapons. Among the common people, at least those who have served in the military
Tens of thousands of people, will they be afraid of the few thousand people like Takeda Nobutora?"
"After all, we are just a mob. If we weren't afraid, the Hojo family wouldn't sit here and negotiate peace with us." Takeda Hironobu spoke slowly. Although his tone was gentle, his logic was to the point, "The Hojo family might as well be more honest. You yourself are
The last thing you can afford is to waste time. There is no need to repeat the trick of asking for high prices and paying back the money on the spot. Offering such a low condition first and waiting for us to counter-offer? It is just a waste of time."
"Then why don't you ask the Imagawa family and the Takeda family to tell you what they want? I am stupid and can't figure out what you are thinking." Hojo Genan simply retreated in order to advance and threw the ball to Imagawa Yoshimoto.
and Takeda Harunobu.
"Return Kadong to us, and the Hojo family withdraws from the eastern part of Suruga." Imagawa Yoshimoto said simply and solemnly.
"You ate shit!" Hojo Ujiyasu was completely offended. He stood up suddenly, pointed at Imagawa Yoshimoto's nose and yelled, "Why didn't you tell us to cede Odawara Castle to you?"
Normally, if someone pointed at his nose and scolded him, Imagawa Yoshimoto would probably be a little flustered. But this time, he was already prepared, and his face was as calm as water, without a trace of ripples.
The Hojo family is defrauding the Imagawa family's bottom line, and wants to see if the condition proposed by Imagawa Yoshimoto is the real bottom line, or if it is just an inflated offer. At this time, Imagawa Yoshimoto must show a firm enough attitude and commitment to this
Only by insisting on the bottom line can the Hojo family suspect that this may really be the Imagawa family's uncompromising request.
If you are not firm enough, the result will be like the request for compensation made by the Hojo family just now, which will be exposed at the first glance - it is just a casual request.
"Odawara Castle was conquered by your Hojo family and has been your home for decades. How could I make undue demands? But Suruga is a territory that has been passed down from generation to generation for three hundred years by the Imagawa family and has never changed hands. Now in my
If I lose my hand, how can I face my ancestors?" Imagawa Yoshimoto said without blushing or without a heart beating about those family sentiments that he had never believed in in the past, but it was obviously very useful to the traditional samurai here.
"Now I want to take back our Imagawa family's homeland? Is there anything wrong with it? If the Hojo family refuses, then we can only stay with you until the end. After all, we may never have such a good opportunity to regain our territory!"
"Impossible!" Hojo Ujiyasu yelled without giving in, making Imagawa Yoshimoto unable to figure out where the Hojo family's bottom line was. "I, the young master, sent troops to attack Hexi, but turned around and threw all Hedong back. You
How am I supposed to face my retainers? Can I still take on the position of young master? How can I return such a strategically important land like Hedong to you without a fight?"
"Besides, the Takeda family still has quite a bit of this Kadong area, isn't it?" Hojo Genan also added after Hojo Ujiyasu. He is cunning and cunning and obviously has more experience in diplomacy than Hojo Ujiyasu.
Many, not forgetting to drive a wedge between Imagawa and Takeda, "If His Highness Imagawa wants to take back Hedong, will he also take back the Takeda family's share?"
"The Takeda family has no problem!" Seeing this, Takeda Harunobu immediately jumped out to take over the conversation. He was obviously prepared, "Just think of it as a dowry for my sister. As long as the Hojo family agrees to withdraw from Suruga, the Takeda family will immediately
Let’s return the territory we occupy in Fuji County and the northern part of Shudong County to the Imagawa family! If the Imagawa family wants to take back Suruga, the Takeda family fully supports it and is willing to fight side by side with the Imagawa family. The territory they conquered will also be handed over to the Imagawa family.
Home!"
There is fraud in this...
Taiyuan Xuezhai had reminded him before, and Imagawa Yoshimoto instinctively felt something was wrong from the Takeda family's kindness.
What Takeda Harunobu said was that if the Hojo family was willing to withdraw from Suruga, the Takeda family would return the territory. But it was absolutely impossible for the Hojo family to agree to this condition, because the Takeda family's promise was just verbal, but they had to sell the Imagawa family one
It's a great favor. If the Takeda family supports the Imagawa family so much in the Suruga territorial dispute, the Imagawa family will reciprocate the favor and have to support the Takeda family in other requests made by the Takeda family later. But if the Takeda family has the support of the Imagawa family, they will be a hundred times more confident.
, and instead made very excessive demands to the Hojo family - which may lead to the breakdown of negotiations.
This chapter is not over, please click on the next page to continue reading! This is what the teacher said before, the risk of being implicated by the Takeda family. And I must tell the Takeda family that the support of the Imagawa family to the Takeda family is limited in order to restrain the Takeda
Don't take bold risks.
"No, thank you very much for Torachiyo's kindness, but how can our Imagawa family seize land from our allies?" Imagawa Yoshimoto raised his hand and pressed it down, signaling to Takeda Harunobu, "It doesn't have to be like this."
"If you really want to give me a dowry, just give me the famous sword on Torachiyo's waist." Imagawa Yoshimoto smiled and pointed at Takeda Harunobu's waist - that is the Takeda family's famous sword - Sozomonji.
"Ha... Goro wants it, so of course he will give it to him." Takeda Harunobu obviously didn't expect that his strong support would be rejected by the Imagawa family, and responded with some stuttering.
"Young Master, you have met a master." Takeda Hironobu chuckled behind Takeda Harunobu, shook his head and lowered his voice.
"In any case, it is impossible to return to Kadong." Hojo Ujiyasu insisted and did not relent, but made a slight concession, "It is okay to return the territory currently occupied by the Imagawa family."
"Has His Highness Hojo not understood the situation?" Imagawa Yoshimoto's face darkened, and he threatened, "Sending troops this time to recover Hedong is the bottom line of our Imagawa family. Not to mention other demands, if you all
If I am not allowed to take back the ancestral territory of the Imagawa family, how can I face the retainers who sacrificed their lives to fight for it?"
"It's useless no matter what you say. No matter what you say, if it doesn't work, it won't work." Hojo Ujiyasu remained unmoved, "Taking a step back, what will happen even if I agree to you? I'm just the young master of the Hojo family.
Returning Hedong is such a big thing, I have said and done it, but it was my father who made the final decision. It is obviously impossible for my father to agree to this request, so what are you thinking?"
Imagawa Yoshimoto frowned, suddenly realizing that he was at a subtle disadvantage at the negotiation table.
He originally thought that as the governor of the family, and the other two negotiators were both young masters, he should have an advantage - because he had greater authority. But it turns out that this is not always the case. Hojo Ujiyasu can take the title of "head of the family".
"I won't agree" as the reason, easily defusing Imagawa Yoshimoto's attacks. However, Imagawa Yoshimoto himself appeared on the negotiating table as the top decision-maker, but had to respond to every attack and had no excuses.
On the contrary, a negotiator who cannot keep his word at home is more powerful at the negotiation table. Because if the conditions given to him by his lord are not met, even if he agrees during the negotiation, the agreement obtained from the negotiation will be
Unable to gain the approval of his Lord - wouldn't that mean he would have to make concessions to him?
In other words, the harsher the position of one's own family on a certain issue, the more powerless the negotiator is at home, and the more advantage he or she will have in diplomatic negotiations. On the contrary, the more flexible the position of one's own family on a certain issue, the more flexible the negotiator will be.
The more powerful he is at home, the more passive he will be in diplomatic negotiations because he is perceived by others as the person more capable of making concessions.
Imagawa Yoshimoto didn't know that he was self-taught and figured out the concept of "winning set" in later "two-level game theory".
Subsequently, Imagawa Yoshimoto and Hojo Ujiyasu fell into a turbulent dispute. Both sides insisted on their own terms and refused to give in.
"Let's rest for a while first. Let's have lunch." Seeing that the negotiation was gradually reaching a deadlock, Taiyuan Xuezhai took the initiative to suggest that the meeting be adjourned, "After lunch, we will discuss the details in detail.