Li Shimin was also shocked by his fierce reaction. He hated Shang Yang and Han Feizi so much.
No, I should say how much I hate the Jin Fa Sect.
But at this time, he somewhat understood why Chen Jingke despised the powerful nobles so much, and why he told Xu Shanying and others what they said about the love between the army and the people.
It turns out the roots are here.
However, he still advised: "Shang Yang and Han Feizi are both legalist sages, so you should not be rude to them, especially don't be so disrespectful in front of outsiders."
Chen Jingke said casually: "Hey, I'm not stupid, so I just say a few words in front of you, and I can blow them up to the sky in front of outsiders."
Li Shimin couldn't laugh or cry, and the more he talked about it, the more he said it. He also knew Chen Jingke's problem, he didn't know what to say when he got excited.
The reason why he didn't help to correct him was that he was afraid that Chen Jingke would suddenly become scheming, and that his character flaws would make him easier to control.
Of course, the premise cannot be that kind of principled flaw, otherwise he would not dare to marry off his daughter.
"Okay, okay, I know you're not stupid. Since you don't like the Jin Law Sect's harsh treatment of the people, then you are the rich country and strong people who support Guanzi?"
Chen Jingke said: "Yes, Guanzi has experienced hardship when his family fell into decline. He knows the sufferings of the people, understands their demands, and will consider the feelings of the people when administering policies."
"But he doesn't just sympathize with the people. He was born in a powerful family, and later served as the prime minister, which gave him a broad enough perspective to view the entire country and understand its demands."
"Then combine the two to find a balance between the country and the people, and achieve the goal of balancing both."
"His ideas are truly derived from practice and are practical and long-lasting."
Li Shimin couldn't help but nodded. His experience was somewhat similar to Guan Zhong's in some places. Although the Li family did not suffer from poverty, he also suffered hardships.
When he was a child, his father Li Yuan was an official away from home, and he followed his mother to farm in his hometown. He farmed the land himself, not to supervise the tenant farmers.
At that time, the whole country was short of population. The imperial court conducted a population census every few years and implemented a land equalization system to allocate land to the common people. Even powerful people like the Li family were short of tenants.
No one cultivated the land Li Yuan earned, and it would be a pity to let it go uncultivated, so his mother took her brothers to cultivate it themselves.
There are records in history books that Li Shimin plowed the fields and picked wheat in the fields when he was a child.
As a wealthy family, one has to be wary of plundering by rebels and bandits. The Li family has suffered from banditry more than once. Until the 21st century, Wugong County still has the cave where he took refuge as a child.
This situation lasted until Li Yuan took them to his side.
Therefore, although Li Shimin came from a powerful family in Guanlong, he really suffered hardships when he was a child. He knew the life of the lower class very well and knew what the people needed.
This experience affected his life and directly affected his policies towards the people after he became emperor.
Therefore, he can indeed resonate with Guan Zhong in some aspects. Listening to Chen Jingke praise Guan Zhong is like praising himself.
Chen Jingke didn't know what Li Shimin was thinking. He was thinking about himself and said:
"Shang Yang is different from Han Feizi. They were born rich and have no idea what the people are thinking. Or they know, but they are noble and don't bother to consider the feelings of ordinary people."
"They simply consider issues from the perspective of those in power, put forward all kinds of taken-for-granted ideas, and set many harsh laws."
"In a short period of time, their ideas and laws were indeed very effective. Under the guidance of their ideas, the Qin State rose rapidly and finally unified China and rebuilt China."
"However, they ignored the most practical issue. Human beings are not animals and have their own joys, sorrows and joys."
"When there is a common enemy, the conflict can be transferred outward, and the people have to endure this kind of oppression and exploitation for safety reasons."
"When the foreign enemies are eliminated and there is no way to divert the conflict, and the people continue to be squeezed as before, the result will be that Daze Township shouts out, the world gathers to respond, and Qin II dies."
Li Shimin said thoughtfully: "Everyone is saying that Qin died due to tyranny, but your explanation is indeed very novel, and it sounds a little bit reasonable."
Chen Jingke said proudly: "That is, when I was in the Internet... family, the demise of the Qin Dynasty was always one of the key topics of discussion."
"Everyone conducted a comprehensive analysis from various angles and summarized many experiences and lessons. Some people also imagined how to resolve these problems if they returned to the Qin Dynasty."
"But no matter which angle you look at it, Qin's law was harsh and divorced from human nature, which was one of the main factors in its demise."
Li Shimin immediately became interested and said: "Oh, have you ever conducted such deductions? Come and tell me about it."
Chen Jingke said with some embarrassment: "This matter is so complicated that it's difficult to explain clearly at the moment. How about I go back and sort out my thoughts and write out the results of the discussion for you to see?"
This was exactly what Li Shimin wanted. How could he disagree and said, "Okay, write it down as soon as possible. I'll see how your family views the fall of Qin."
This was indeed an unexpected surprise for him. They all say that history can serve as a guide, but different people see different things from history.
Through Chen Jingke, we can see that the "Chen family" has discovered and interpreted history better than anyone else.
He wanted to know the family's analysis of this period of history to see if they could learn lessons from it and avoid making the same mistakes in the Tang Dynasty.
However, he did not forget the main purpose of today and said: "Let's continue to talk about your understanding of Guanzi's thoughts."
At this moment, Chen Jingke had already understood that Li Shimin had made such a big circle because of what he said yesterday.
He was actually able to connect what he said yesterday with Guan Zhong's thoughts. He even admired Li Shimin's thinking.
However, the other party also reminded him that he could indeed use the thoughts of ancient sages to package his new ideas.
In this way, you won't appear too different, and you can openly look for like-minded people from various schools of thought.
But these are things that will happen later. For now, we should get rid of Li Shimin first and try our best to win his consent to promote this idea.
"An elder in my family analyzed Guanzi's thoughts and built a model based on it. You will understand it when you see the model."
Li Shimin said with great interest: "Model? What kind of model?"
Chen Jingke said: "Can you give me a pen? It's hard to say, but it will be clear to me when I draw it."
Li Shimin pointed to the side of the imperial case and said, "Come on, let's paint here."
Chen Jingke went over, took the paper and pen and drew a triangle, then divided the triangle into three parts horizontally, and wrote three words: survival, belonging, and transcendence.
Putting down his pen, he pointed at the painting and explained: "This triangle is like a tall building, and the bottom is the foundation..."
"Survival is to human beings what the foundation is to a high-rise building...Survival is the most basic need of human beings."
"Beyond survival is belonging. Only when food, clothing, clothing and survival are guaranteed, can people have the energy to pursue ethics and morality, and pursue a sense of national identity and civilization identity..."
"To put it simply, whoever can keep people fed and clothed, and who can ensure people's safety, people will have a sense of belonging to and identify with who they are."
"Once they encounter a foreign enemy, people will unite and fight to the death to protect everything they have..."
"Located at the top of the building is transcendence and self-transcendence. When survival needs are solved and a sense of belonging is formed, human beings will have ethical and moral needs that transcend themselves."
"For example, Boyi Shuqi starved to death and refused to eat Zhousu millet. For example, he would rather die than eat the food that came to him. For example, Su Wu's Beihai shepherd was still loyal and unyielding."
Li Shimin nodded slowly and thoughtfully, it did sound like this. Although this model is simple, it really goes to the core of Guanzi's thoughts.
He had confirmed Zhangsun Wugou's guess that the Chen family was greatly influenced by Guanzi's thoughts.
If you can condense Guanzi's thoughts into a simple model diagram, even if they don't believe in Guanzi, even ghosts will believe it.
Chen Jingke continued: "Guan Zi's ideas of enriching the country and strengthening the people and hiding troops among the people can be fit into this model... It can be said that he was acting according to this idea."
"In comparison, the Jinfa Sect is a bit unrealistic. They actually want to hollow out the foundation. Isn't this a joke?"
"If a country has no way to keep its people fed and clothed, and no way to ensure its people's personal safety, how can people have a sense of identity and belonging to it?"
At this point, Chen Jingke changed his subject and began to defend the "community-military relationship": "On the other hand, if a country wants to last long, it must create a sense of identity and belonging."
"Chinese civilization has a long history and is deeply rooted in the hearts of the people. This is our greatest advantage. We should strengthen this concept so that everyone can agree with it."
"But for ordinary people, the concept of Chinese civilization is too big and too far away from them. It is far less convincing than the parents and neighbors around them."
"So we have to tell them that to protect Chinese civilization is to protect parents, wives and children, and to protect everything they have... That's why I say 'military and civilian fish and water relations'."
Li Shimin smiled and said: "When I first heard about it yesterday, I was really anxious because I didn't know the whole story. I was afraid that you were young and ignorant and said something you shouldn't have said and someone would take advantage of you."
"Now that I know that you are influenced by Guan Zi's thoughts, I feel relieved. However, you should be careful what you say in the future and don't let others catch you."
"I understand. Thank you for your kindness, Your Majesty." Chen Jingke said respectfully.
Although I don't know how Li Shimin connected the "military and civilian fish-water situation" with Guanzi's thoughts.
But that doesn't matter, as long as he doesn't object to his own promotion of this point of view.
The two also discussed Chen Jingke's follow-up publicity and education plan. Although Li Shimin retained his opinions on many views, he did not object.
Let him try it in Baiqisi. If it works, it's best. If it doesn't, it won't be too late to stop it immediately.
The two of them talked until noon, and when it was almost time for lunch, Chen Jingke resigned.
Li Shimin originally wanted to stay with him for dinner, but he bluntly said that he wanted to discuss something with the queen, so he declined and left.
