"Then I won't be polite!" Director Ji didn't show any pretense at all, and went straight to the point: "Everyone knows the details of your Qiu Electronics, which is generally a good thing. Now the country is short of money, and there are private entrepreneurs.
If you are willing to invest in these industries, we are happy to see the results. Personally, I am just curious. This industry is not easy to do, and the investment is not profitable, so why do you still invest money in it?"
Fang Zhe was a little dazed. He had prepared many aspects, but he didn't expect that Director Ji would come out from such an angle.
Yes, there are many ways to make money now. To be fair in this business, it really doesn’t make much money. The bulk of Qiu Electronics’ profit is actually the USB flash drive. You won’t believe it if you tell me. Because the investment is too large, it has been profitable so far.
, the most you can earn back is interest.
"Memory is just a branch of the semiconductor industry. What Qiu Electronics does is the lowest part of this branch. Raw materials and chips have to be imported. It has always been very difficult. If you don't believe it, when you decide to do Qiu Electronics,
I don’t expect this company to make back its capital within ten years.”
Director Ji laughed when he heard this: "But you still jumped in!"
"Yes, there is really no way. The semiconductor industry is too important. According to the current development momentum of the industry, the semiconductor industry will be the most important industry in the new century. In at most twenty years, its coverage will be all over the world.
In all aspects of the national economy and people's livelihood, such an important industry, the earlier it is invested, the greater the role it will play in the future."
Fang Zhe tried to use the simplest words to express his meaning clearly. Director Ji understood and nodded calmly.
"My personal abilities are limited, and this industry is quite special. I was able to build Qiu Electronics because I took advantage of the Asian financial crisis to make matters worse. As CEO, Qiu Xiaoyou plays an important role."
Director Ji interrupted him at this time, probably because he didn't want to hear about Qiu Xiaoyou.
"How do you personally view the chip industry? According to reports, you have been trying to enter this industry and want to be a foundry."
This was clearly investigated, but Fang Zhe was not worried. After all, he had no other reason to blame other than his lifestyle.
"Making memories also requires chips. What if we use other people's chips? Even if the brand is made, how competitive can it be? Therefore, we must have our own chips. But the difficulty of this industry is there. We can only
Let’s do it bit by bit. Do OEM first to ensure a closed loop at the bottom end of the journey, and then seek development upwards, design your own chips, and bypass technical barriers.”
Director Ji listened very carefully and stopped talking for a moment.
Seeing this, Fang Zhe continued: "Our country is too far behind in this industry, and time waits for us. Simply speaking, in terms of the chips needed for memory, the strongest ones now are Japan and South Korea, and most of them are OEMs.
This strength is not in any one aspect, but in the entire industry chain from design to production. So, we can’t wait any longer. If we wait for a few years, it will be even harder.”
These words were talking about Fang Zhe's own company, so why weren't they talking to Director Ji?
"Nowadays, the mainstream voice is that it is better to build than to buy. The top management looks very far. The technology accumulation and industry in related industries have been doing it. It is because of economic reasons that the investment is limited. Every year during the budget, some people will always say something.
"Why can't this industry catch up no matter what we do? Why not use the limited funds in other directions? Do you think this is acceptable?"
Director Ji laughed as he spoke, as if he was mocking something.
Fang Zhe's reaction was a crooked mouth, a faint and disdainful expression: "The person who said such things can still be heard by you. He must not be a fool. Then there is only one possibility left, and that is for himself.
Self-interest. I wanted to invest in the Songjiang project, but was rejected. I knew it was presumptuous, so I thought of finding another way."
Fang Zhe then added: "As for me, no matter what others think, I will definitely invest in chip design first, let's take ten years. If I insist on investing for ten years, I will be close to the leading country in the field of memory chip design."
level. As for the foundry link, I will also strive for it, and the time will be set at ten years, to achieve the entire industry chain from design to production. Of course, this is not a complete entity, and we still lack many things, such as photolithography machines.
, photoresist, when can we use domestically produced ones?”
Director Ji listened with a heavy expression. Seeing this, Fang Zhe continued: "I have two suggestions. One is the architecture of chip design. This country must pay attention to it. The other is the lithography machine.
, we can only rely on the state to do this. What the business community can do is probably what I do."
Director Ji smiled and raised his hand: "After talking for a while, drink some tea and moisten your throat."
Fang Zhe said almost everything he wanted to say, and now he also joked: "Isn't this just serving tea to see off guests?"
Director Ji burst out laughing after hearing this, and Fang Zhe drank the tea in the cup slowly. He was indeed a little thirsty.
"I know there are things you haven't said. For example, if it involves sensitive areas at the national security level, do you still need to import them? If someone slaps you on the neck, can your planes fly into the sky and your missiles can hit them accurately?
As you said, there are some things that can only be done by the state. But under the tide of market economy, there is no market for domestically produced products in the semiconductor industry, which is very difficult."
After hearing this, Fang Zhe decisively extended an olive branch: "The chip design I mentioned just now, I wonder if it can be like this. I will pay for it and cooperate with some departments. Even if it is my own architectural problem, it will be solved in a while.
If we can’t solve it, we can only use A architecture and X architecture for the time being. Is it possible to cultivate design talents?”
Director Ji's expression changed a few times when he heard this, and then calmed down. He crossed his hands on his chest and lowered his head in thought.
"This model is feasible in principle. Everyone should get what they need. Where do you plan to put the design department? Special Zone? Songjiang?"
For some departments, the biggest benefit of this model is that it solves the problem of scientific research funding.
As for the architecture issue, Fang Zhe had no hope, and Director Ji didn’t think much about it. He used other people’s architecture to cultivate talents first. The disadvantage is also obvious, that is, he has to pay protection fees. For example, architecture A, he provides the architecture, and you can build it
You can freely use it on the architecture of the .
"Songjiang, from the perspective of attracting talents, Songjiang has the best environment." Fang Zhe gave the answer. Director Ji could obviously tell that he was slightly disappointed. He hoped that Fang Zhe would give a third choice.