Chapter 320 If you can't get it on the battlefield, can you find a way at the negotiating table?
The confused Dorgon couldn't figure out why the Qing army, which had always had the initiative on the battlefield, was now in such a passive situation. What was the difference between letting the Ming army build the castle to Daning and building it to the doorstep of their home?
The Ming army built a military fort system in Daning, just like later generations built a missile defense system to the border of a hostile country. It seemed to be for defense, but in fact it was for further attack. Of course Dorgon knew that this was successfully accomplished
What impact did it have on the Qing army?
No way, he thought of Hong Chengchou again. Although none of Lao Hong's ideas in the past two years had the expected effect, Dorgon was not so confused that he couldn't distinguish the situation. These ideas of Lao Hong did not work.
No wonder he. On the battlefield, there is no advantage in fighting against the few. No matter how good the strategic planning is, it is useless. The problem lies in the sudden qualitative improvement of the Ming army's combat power, not in the strategic planning.
Lao Hong also followed the army to the front line this time. After receiving Dorgon's summons, he quickly rushed over.
"Mr. Hong! You must also know that the situation on the battlefield is quite unfavorable to me. I have summoned Mr. Hong here today because I want to hear what he has to say about his plans for the country."
What do you think of the country? Hong Chengchou’s eyes lit up when he heard Dorgon’s words. Although Dorgon had consulted him several times on strategic decisions in the past two years, this was the first time that it had risen to the overall strategic planning of the Qing Dynasty.
asked once.
"I believe that the reason why the Qing Dynasty is currently in a state of passivity is that the Ming army's combat power has skyrocketed in the past two years, with about 100,000 combatable soldiers! Since the summer of the 15th year, the Ming Emperor began to build general schools and reorganize his troops.
It seems that the results are obvious. In the past, the number of soldiers that could confront the Eight Banners of the Qing Dynasty on the battlefield was only 20,000. However, I now feel that there are nearly 100,000, and their soldiers have the advantage of new firearms. Therefore, the Qing Dynasty often used them on the battlefield.
You can't stand a chance."
"It's true. In the past, I didn't pay much attention to the changes in the Ming army. Now it seems that since the battle of Abatai entering the pass, the Ming army has undergone great changes. Now, how does Mr. Hong think the country should respond?"
"I believe that first of all, the method of the Daning battle must be changed. Nearly 100,000 troops and horses are deployed here. This will consume a lot of money and may not be effective."
"Not fighting the Battle of Daning? This place is very important to our Qing Dynasty. It is the key link between the Qing Dynasty and Mengdi."
"It is precisely because this place is the passage connecting the Qing Dynasty and the Meng Dynasty that I suggested that the prince give up temporarily. Fundamentally speaking, the Qing Dynasty is not the master of Daning. When the Ming army comes here, the most urgent thing should be the master of this place.
For the Ming army, the most difficult thing is not to get here but to stand still for a long time. Why did the Wu thief flee immediately after the war went unfavorable? It was because he knew that Daning was a difficult place to treat! In the short term, even if the Ming army was in Daning
, and it is difficult to use this place to pose a threat to the hinterland of Liaodong. Daning is nearly a thousand miles away from its hinterland of Gyeonggi. If you want to keep tens of thousands of troops here for a long time, the attrition drama is unimaginable."
"Sir! Why didn't you say this earlier? If I had known that the situation was like this, I wouldn't have been entangled with the Ming army here."
I told you earlier, can you listen? How can you rest without being upset? At that time, can you realize the fact that the overall combat strength of the Ming army has increased? Hong Chengchou really wanted to complain about Dorgon in person, but he was wily and calculating.
Still suppressing his inner thoughts, he chose to remain silent when faced with Dorgon's inquiry.
"That's all, I know why you didn't say anything, sir. Please continue to talk about your plans for the country." Seeing Hong Chengchou's silence, Dorgon had to find a step to let him continue to speak. Continuing to struggle on this matter, everyone
It would be very embarrassing.
"Southern Liaoning cannot accommodate the Ming army. The Ming army currently only has one man in Jinzhou. We should take advantage of the mid-winter when there is no external aid for our troops to strike with all our strength! This is one of the reasons. The other is that the old minister suggested that the regent send a messenger to communicate with the Ming Dynasty.
The Qing Dynasty and the Ming Dynasty contacted each other, and the Qing Dynasty and the Ming Dynasty held talks to ask the two sides to stop fighting, turn the hostility into friendship, and let them take the initiative to withdraw from Daning!"
After Dorgon heard Hong Chengchou's idea, he stared at Hong Chengchou with big eyes and disbelief. What are you thinking, old guy? We can't defeat them on the battlefield, but we actually want to let them take the initiative to negotiate the proposal at the negotiation table.
Give up the good places? Is there something wrong with my head?
"Mr. Hong, is it possible that Mingting will take the initiative to give up Daning?"
"It's very possible! The Ming court cannot fail to see their hidden dangers in Daning. Daning is not a place to stay for a long time. Someone in the Ming court will think of this. In addition, the hinterland of the Ming court is in chaos. Compared with Liaodong, the hinterland
Corruption is a serious problem. Being able to free up their hands from Liaodong and send out a large army to quell the chaos in the hinterland as soon as possible is what they want. The Ming court cannot completely defeat the country in a short time, and the Ming emperor must know it. If the two dynasties can negotiate peace
, let Liaodong return to peace and no longer contain the main force of the Ming army, they will be happy to see this happen."
Is this really the truth? After Hong Chengchou explained it, Dorgon felt that peace talks seemed very possible, so he continued to ask: "If there is peace talks, what should the country and the dynasty use as criteria?"
"One reason is that we talk about it while fighting. The other reason is that we value actual benefits over fame. The third reason is that compared to Daning, Ningyuan can be regarded as useless for the country and the dynasty."
Hong Chengchou did not clarify what he said, but Dorgon already understood what he was talking about. His suggestion was that the Battle of Southern Liaoning must be fought, and it would be best to formally start negotiations with the Ming court when the Battle of Southern Liaoning was launched. Emphasis on practicality
Li Xiaofang means that during negotiations, there is no need to deliberately emphasize the equal status of the Qing Dynasty and the Ming Dynasty. If necessary, compromises can be made on the identity issue, but Daning must let the Ming army give way, and the Qing army must actually control this area.
If the negotiations are anxious, the ownership of Ningyuan City can be exchanged for the control of Daning. Ningyuan should be more important to the Ming Dynasty than Daning. To the Qing court, the two statuses are exactly the opposite. They are a concession and a step.
place.
"Mr. Hong, this strategy only solves the current situation. If it is for the long term, how can the country overcome it?"
"Prince Regent, after the Battle of Ningyuan during the Tianqi period, how did the country break the situation? I believe that the surrender of King Sanshun and others played a very important role in giving the country heavy artillery and firearms. The new technologies that have appeared in the Ming Dynasty in recent years
Firearms are the key to the sudden increase in their combat power. The country should find a way to concentrate its efforts on imitating its new firearms. With the new firearms, the Eight Banners soldiers will be even more powerful."
"It is true what Mr. Hong said! The soldiers of the Qing Dynasty can still suppress the new soldiers of the Ming Dynasty in brave battles. The only problem is that they do not have sharp weapons. If a worker wants to do his job well, he must first sharpen his weapons. This is the truth.
.Imitating the Ming court's new firearms is the key to reversing the situation."
At this time, when the Manchu and Qing Dynasties were not unified, changes in the war situation would have a great impact on their policy formulation. Moreover, the Manchu and Qing nobles also had a strong learning mentality, far from being as conservative and ignorant as later generations. When they realized that something was wrong,
Not knowing how to change is a common problem among the old forces. Nowadays, the Manchus do not have this problem. They are still enterprising entrepreneurs.