The flower hall outside the capital, the Ministry of Household Affairs, and the Shangshu's duty room.
The incense is lingering, the stove is warm, and a red sandalwood landscape screen at the door blocks the snowy scene outside, keeping the conversation between the two ministers in the flower hall indoors, away from outsiders.
"This is roughly what happened. The latest news after that is that Li Chengliang pressured Jianzhou, and Nurhachi took the initiative to surrender, invited him to Hetuala to inspect, and promised to return the land he had seized in the past few years." Liang Menglong, the visiting Minister of the Ministry of War
He sighed, shook his head and said.
The pragmatic Gao sat opposite Liang Menglong. He seemed slightly surprised when he heard this. He frowned and pondered, and tapped the armrest of the rosewood chair rhythmically with the five fingers of his right hand.
Liang Menglong has been familiar with Gao Pragmatic for a long time, and knows that this is Gao Pragmatic's habitual action when thinking, so he does not rush it and quietly waits for Gao Pragmatic's conclusion.
Not long after, Liang Menglong, who was holding a sip of fragrant tea, suddenly heard Gao Pragmatic chuckle. He raised his head and said with some surprise: "Why do you laugh when you seek truth?"
Gao pragmatic seemed to be unable to hold back his smile, he laughed "haha" again, shook his head and said: "I laugh at Li Yincheng who has been unbeatable in Liaodong for more than 20 years, but this time he is only afraid of suffering a big loss."
Liang Menglong was greatly surprised. He opened his eyes wide and looked in disbelief: "How can you say this?"
Gao Pingshi raised his eyebrows slightly and asked, "Does Mr. Mingquan know Zhang Poqiang's old skills?"
"Zhang Poqiang?" Liang Menglong thought about this somewhat unfamiliar title and asked, "Please tell the truth, does it mean Zhang Xiu, the general of PoQiang in the late Han Dynasty?"
Gao Pragmatic nodded and said: "Of course."
Liang Menglong's expression changed: "You mean... Nurhachi pretended to surrender?"
"Nurhaci is by no means someone who asks for surrender easily." Gao Pragmatic said decisively with bright eyes, "I expect that when he surrendered this time, his words must be extremely respectful and humble, and he would not hesitate to be a slave, right?"
"Yes." Liang Menglong replied, and then asked: "What is the strategy of the arrogant soldiers?"
Gao Pragmatic smiled: "Cao Cao was defeated in Wancheng and forced Zhang Xiu's aunt Zou to sleep with him as a trigger. However, it was too easy to win. He became complacent and became a arrogant soldier. This is the root cause. I think
In the battle of Jianzhou, Uncle Ning Yuan has shown the appearance of a arrogant soldier. Even if Nurhaci has not decided on his plan, he should follow Zhang Xiu and Jia Xu's strategy after seeing him."
Liang Menglong thought about it and said: "But Li Chengliang has many brave generals and capable soldiers, and Nurhachi has recently defeated him and asked to surrender. I am afraid that the morale of the barbarian soldiers under his command is low..."
Gao Pingshi said: "It is true, but the low morale of Nurhachi's troops is not irreversible. As the saying goes, a sad soldier will win, Nurhaci only needs to pretend to be pitiful, and then devise one or two things, such as pretending that Ning Yuanbo bullied others, etc., and then Jianzhou Yi soldiers
He will be extremely angry, which is why he mourns his troops."
Liang Menglong frowned and said: "Li Chengliang is not a resourceful person. Why was he so careless this time?"
"I'm afraid he didn't make a mistake, but made a mistake." Gao pragmatic shook his head and said: "Uncle Ning Yuan wants to go to Hetuala in person, which is actually the biggest failure of this war. If he stationed a large army outside Hetuala,
Even when he was stationed as far away as Crow Falcon Pass and Qinghe Fort, Nurhaci was still nothing more than a turtle in a jar. It was up to me to take the initiative when to capture him.
But he was afraid that the west and north routes would gain the upper hand and weaken his reputation as the commander-in-chief of Liaodong. Therefore, he planned the battle step by step from the pre-war deployment: He knew that Cao Yu was cautious, but instead of giving a shortcut, he gave one
The difficult road was deliberately taken slowly; he knew that Ma Chengxun was brave, but he did not impose strict orders and asked him to walk alone, deliberately taking the speed.
Between the speed and the slowness, the strength and the weakness, Nurhaci would naturally want to defeat Ma Chengxun first and regard Cao Yun as useless. I guess Ning Yuanbo's intention was to see Ma Chengxun defeated and Cao Yun came to his aid.
If not, then he can turn the tide when Ma Chengxun is newly defeated, and let the emperor and the court see his power in Liaodong.
I don’t know whether Nurhachi’s request for surrender was anticipated by Nurhachi. However, I think Nurhachi’s request for surrender was not the best situation for Ning Yuanbo, but it was still acceptable. Even though it lacked some military exploits, it was still acceptable.
With more power, people can also see that he plays a decisive role in Liaodong.
It is precisely because of this that he went to Hetuala for inspection - this inspection was actually just Xiang Zhuang's sword dance, aimed at Pei Gong. Ning Yuanbo did not really want to embarrass Nurhachi, he just wanted to show the court something."
Liang Menglong's expression gradually turned ugly, and he said in a deep voice: "Since he wants to impress the imperial court, then Li Chengliang will definitely become more domineering after arriving in Hetuala. Because only the more domineering he behaves, the more powerful his reputation will be.
Under this situation, the Jurchen tribes, even people like Nurhachi, can only obey and dare not complain at all."
Gao pragmatically spread his hands: "That's probably the case."
Liang Menglong's anger began to rise, and he gritted his teeth and said: "I don't care whether Li Chengliang is defeated or not, but if he is really defeated at this time, wouldn't this so-called four-pronged army encirclement Hetuala battle be regarded as nothing?
And the prestige that I, the Ming Dynasty, have established in Liaodong for two hundred years will also collapse in one day?"
Gao Pangshi did not immediately agree this time, but pondered for a moment and said: "The prestige that the Ming Dynasty has established in the court for two hundred years will not collapse in one go. Especially a defeat like Ning Yuanbo's, even if it spreads.
, the Jurchen tribes can only say that he lost Jingzhou due to his carelessness, and it will not extend to the entire Ming Dynasty. But in this way, the next battle will be difficult to fight, or Cao Yun will be under greater pressure.
Now Ma Chengxun is injured. Although he has sent a message saying that he is not seriously injured, but he will not be able to use his left arm in the near future. However, after this battle, although I have not been to the place, I feel that the place cannot use most of the cavalry...
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The words were obviously not finished yet, but Liang Menglong made an apologetic gesture this time, interrupted Gao Pingshi's words, and said: "If this is really the case, then there will be another crime on Li Chengliang's head!"
Gao pragmatic knew what he meant: when the imperial court scheduled the number of troops, it only controlled the number of troops and did not clearly say how to proportion the troops. This must be something that the frontline generals must control themselves. Specifically, it was Li Chengliang who did it.
The details are determined, and the court cannot control them remotely.
Li Chengliang must be very familiar with the local terrain. He has defeated Gule Village twice, and Gule Village is not far from Hetuala. This time, Cao Yun's troops marched along the Sukeshu River, so
Normally speaking, after passing through Sarhu, the next stop is Jiefan Village, then Gule Village, then Mardun Village, and finally Hetuala.
Since Li Chengliang is familiar with the local terrain, he naturally knows that large groups of cavalry cannot be used there, so he still arranges for Ma Chengxun's entire army of 4,000 cavalry. Isn't this intentional? Is it just a joke? Obviously he deliberately let Ma Chengxun
Chengxun's unit has high mobility, which creates a situation where only Ma Chengxun can run fast among the four armies.
However, after Liang Menglong said this, he suddenly thought of a big problem and said in surprise: "That's not right. Li Chengliang himself also has all the cavalry, and the number is twice as many as Ma Chengxun. How can this be explained?"
Gao Pragmatic had thought about this question for a long time, and immediately replied: "Nothing else, Ning Yuanbo didn't go to this battle just for the sake of fighting, he just went to show off his power."
"Oh?" Liang Menglong frowned and thought for a moment, then said sullenly: "Good Li Chengliang, what did he take the military order from the imperial court for? I think according to his estimation, he probably waited for Ma Chengxun to be defeated, and he immediately marched in to scare him away.
Nurhachi, in this way, achieved the effect of announcing his power. If things went wrong, he would not be anxious, because all his troops were cavalry. If the battle situation really went bad, he would always be able to escape. And then he also has Cao Cao
He and Yang Yuan have nearly 10,000 infantry available. Both of them are elites. As long as the encirclement is successful, Hetuala will still be captured by him! What a 'sure-fire strategy'!"
Gao pragmatic added: "Although Ning Yuanbo's troops were all cavalry, they brought artillery battalions with them. This probably means that once Nurhaci did not dare to fight with him in the field and refused to surrender, he would directly take the cavalry with him.
Hetuala, use the artillery camp to break the city, so that you can even monopolize the great achievements after Ma Chengxun is defeated."
Liang Menglong sneered and said: "It's true that God is not as good as man. Although Ma Chengxun was slightly injured, the battle was not defeated, and the strength of his army was still there. On the contrary, Nurhachi fell into a desperate situation and had to resort to Zhang Xiu and Jia Xu's strategies.
However, Li Chengliang was so intent on claiming credit that he fell into a trap... Huh, this is the cycle of heaven, and retribution is not good."
Gao Pragmatic was too lazy to discuss the issue of retribution or not, but turned the topic back and said: "If Uncle Ning Yuan really fell into Nurhachi's trick this time, we have to discuss a countermeasure earlier: Should we fight this battle?
, if you want to continue fighting, how should you fight?"
Liang Menglong waved his hand: "How else can we fight? We can only count on Cao Yun."
Gao pragmatic hesitated for a moment, then slowly shook his head and said, "I don't think so."
"Oh?" Liang Menglong was slightly surprised and asked, "What's the point of seeking truth?"
Gao pragmatically said: "Although Ning Yuanbo's defeat is largely foreseeable, it is still difficult to determine whether it will be a major defeat or a minor defeat. If it is just a minor defeat, you can just retreat a certain distance to regroup and make a comeback; if it is a major defeat...
…Then naturally we can only retreat to the wall for repairs first.
Let’s first plan according to the worst situation: Ning Yuanbo is defeated and his troops can no longer fight. What will be the situation of the Jianzhou Battle at this time? Ma Chengxun’s strength on the north road still exists, Cao Yun and Yang Yuan are still fresh forces, and they have not been affected.
Ning Yuanbo's defeat had a profound impact. In other words, our army still has 12,000 to 3,000 troops available.
On the other hand, Nurhaci's troops lost more than 200 people in the North Road ambush battle. According to the general casualty ratio, there should be 200 to 300 more seriously injured and 500 to 600 slightly injured. It is extremely cold in Liaodong, so those with minor injuries are not easy to get the disease.
, can recover quickly, but seriously injured people are more difficult to treat.
Calculated in this way, the battle of Nurhach should be regarded as a loss of about 500 people. This was the largest loss since he inherited the duties of his grandfather. Even...counting from the defeat of Nikan Wailan, the casualties he suffered increased.
Maybe it won’t reach this number even when I get up.”
Gao Pragmatic's estimate is quite accurate. Nurhaci's previous series of wars were relatively small in scale. Especially the series of battles attacking Nikanwailan, where Nurhaci almost always fled to Nikanwailan wherever he chased him.
In another place, there were not many actual battles. In terms of losses, the largest battle loss was only twenty or thirty people.
The battle with Hada was also quite funny. Nurhaci's side charged, and Hada was defeated directly, and the loss was only double digits. In the battle where Nurhaci lost hundreds in one battle, it was the previous two battles against Dong'e, but it was only more than a hundred people. So it is true that
It can be said that the battle with Ma Chengxun was the biggest loss Nurhaci had suffered since he started his army.
This is also the reason why he immediately changed his mind after that battle and no longer adhered to the pre-war plan, but instead carried out a very risky plan of false surrender against Li Chengliang's troops.
He originally planned to "send" Li Chengliang a meritorious service and ask for surrender, but the ambush of Ma Chengxun made him realize the elite and powerful Ming army cavalry. He was worried that the "send of merit" was not done well, because Li Chengliang was eager to ask for the merit, and directly ignored his feelings.
If you fight to the death, you will be completely finished.
Therefore, Nurhachi thought about it and felt that his fate should still be in his own hands, so he simply used war to promote peace, defeating Li Chengliang first, and then watching the movements of the Ming army.
If the Ming army withdraws its troops, he will go directly to the emperor to admit his mistake. Presumably the emperor should be able to face up to his status in Jianzhou and acquiesce to his previous actions; if the Ming army is unwilling to fail, they will continue to fight... At this time, Gu Gu
A Jianzhou left-back would definitely not be able to defeat the Ming Dynasty. However, there were internal conflicts in the Ming Dynasty, and the conflicts in Liaodong were even more intense.
To put it simply, Li Chengliang's defeat was Li Chengliang's fault, and Nurhaci could have gone back to Cao Yu to ask for his surrender.
After hearing Gao Pragmatic's analysis, Liang Menglong immediately expanded his thoughts and said: "Although Nurhachi's plan to design Li Chengliang is likely to succeed, after all, Li Chengliang's troops are all elites who have fought in hundreds of battles. Even if they fall into the trap, they will not be defeated so easily."
.As a result, Nurhaci may lose a lot of people in Hetuala.
His Jianzhou left guard only has seven or eight thousand troops, and as far as I know, these soldiers are usually the only force (labor force) in the tribe. If he really loses more than half, then his Jianzhou left guard will be finished. So.
Even if he defeats Li Chengliang, his own losses will reach the limit he can bear. Unless he really wants the Jianzhou Zuowei clan to be exterminated, or completely reduced to an insignificant tribe, otherwise he will have no choice but to surrender."
This is the real weakness of the Jurchens at this time. The population is too small, resulting in a poor ability to withstand battle damage. Once there are several fierce battles, it will take a long time to recover.
In fact, let alone the current Jurchen situation where various tribes are competing for supremacy, each tribe has a population of tens of thousands. Even if Nurhaci unified the Jurchens in the original history and established the Hou Jin Dynasty, the Hou Jin army's casualty tolerance was actually very high.
Difference.
After a battle like the bloody battle of Hunhe River, it would take a long time for Hou Jin to recover. If the Ming court had not been busy with party disputes at that time, and the emperor and officials were in serious conflict, the court's elite troops would have been almost exhausted.
If so, Houjin is actually not that difficult to pacify.
According to Gao Pragmatic's past thoughts, as long as the Ming army could win even once in a large-scale field battle, they could use this as an opportunity to build confidence in Hou Jin, and then overwhelm and destroy Hou Jin in waves.
At present, Nurhachi's casualty tolerance is even worse. As long as Li Chengliang doesn't mess around due to other factors, the Ming army can win no matter how hard it fights.
Gao pragmatic sighed and said: "I said before that the Jianzhou left guard cannot be completely eliminated now, otherwise Ye He will become unstoppable again. I think otherwise, if Ning Yuanbo is really defeated,
The Ministry of War immediately seized his command and handed over the front line to Cao Yun."
"There is no problem with the Ministry of War, but with the Emperor..." Liang Menglong immediately responded.
Gao pragmatic waved his hand: "I'll go talk to the emperor."
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