"What Section Chief Qian said is really interesting. If, I mean if - if the Imperial Concubine is really involved in the conspiracy, planning or at least participating in the 'Medicinal Diet', then can the identity of the Imperial Concubine be preserved?
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If she cannot keep this identity, then the third prince will be just an ordinary prince, neither the legitimate son nor the eldest son, and he will no longer have the qualifications to compete with the legitimate son and the eldest son of the emperor. I ask, how could this be counterproductive?"
Zhong Zhaodou and Qian Menggao originally had a very good relationship. Unfortunately, in the officialdom of the Ming Dynasty, the teacher-student relationship is something that cannot be betrayed. The friendship of friends... might as well go back a little bit.
In this world, except that the kindness of parents may be attributed to human nature, all relationships between people actually have a price. Loyalty is often just that the cost of betrayal exceeds the benefits obtained, and the opposite is true for betrayal.
Of course, after the formation of the "nation-state" idea, some people with higher moral standards sometimes risk their lives simply out of loyalty to the nation and the country. This is another special case.
In short, Zhong Zhaodou's attitude has shown that he will side with the teacher without hesitation, at least on this current matter, he is at odds with Qian Menggao.
His rebuttal is also reasonable, and he has made it very clear before. Nobility and concubine are the main principles for arranging the status of wives and concubines in Confucian etiquette, and the status of the mother also affects the status of the children she gives birth to.
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Therefore, even if you fail to do anything to Concubine Zheng herself, as long as her status as imperial concubine is removed, it will be considered a success. Why do you, Qian Menggao, still say that it will be "counterproductive"? On the contrary, where is the contrary?
For this issue of status, we can refer to "Spring and Autumn Gongyang Zhuan", which says: "Yin (Gong) is a virtuous man, so why should he not be established? A direct descendant is established to be elder, not to be virtuous; to establish a son is to be noble, not to be elder. Huan
(Mr.) Why is it noble? The mother is noble. If the mother is noble, why is the son noble? The son is noble to the mother, and the mother is noble to the son."
That is to say, the son of the principal wife is the legitimate son, and the older of the legitimate sons is chosen as the heir, rather than the virtuous one; the son of the concubine is the concubine, and if there is no legitimate son, the concubine needs to be chosen as the heir, then the noble one is the heir.
Principle to avoid disputes over the order of inheritance caused by concubines giving birth to children at the same time.
Therefore, He Xiu's annotation says: "Etiquette, if the wife has no children, she will be concubine on the right, and if the concubine on the right has no children, she will be concubine on the left." [Note: In different periods in China, it is not fixed whether the right or the left is respected. From this, it can be seen that at that time, the concubine was respected.
Right.]
In the marriage system of one wife and multiple concubines, the wife's status in the family is higher than that of the concubines, and she is called the "female queen." The status of the legitimate son is higher than that of the concubine, which is because the biological mother is the legitimate son and has a noble status.
Duke Yin and Duke Huan were both sons of Duke Hui, but they were not born to their legitimate wives. However, "Huan's mother, your concubine" was the most respected among the concubines, so Duke Huan was more noble than Duke Yin.
The so-called "son is nobler than his mother" refers to the order of inheritance for sons based on the status of their mother. Therefore, although Duke Yin was older than Duke Huan and had a reputation as a virtuous man, he still could not stand because of his "mother's inferiority".
It can be seen that the distinction between concubines and concubines involves two levels. One is the distinction between the status of wives and concubines, and the other is the difference between the high and low status of descendants. The former affects the latter, and the latter is closely related to the issue of family inheritance.
It can be seen that the "discrimination between direct concubines and concubines" is a very important part of the etiquette of polygamous families, and the status of mother and son is closely related.
The reason why Zhu Yijun mentioned Concubine Zheng's identity again and again in the previous years, and finally raised it to the position of "Vice Queen" as "Emperor's Noble Concubine", was not only to show his love for her, but also to a large extent to improve her status.
Zhu Changxun’s status.
Just imagine, Zhu Changluo is the eldest son of a concubine, and there is no way to change this. Then Zhu Yijun, the father of the emperor, wants Zhu Changxun to gain an advantage over Zhu Changluo, or at least keep pace with Zhu Changluo. In addition to this mentioned in "The Legend of Gongyang"
What else can we do if the system comes up with a solution?
Of course, people in later generations may still hear more about "the mother is more valuable than the son". Especially after many palace battle scenes have been bombarded, many people may have become confused and don't know what "the son is more valuable than the mother".
"Expensive" or "Mother is as valuable as her son".
If you look back at this time, you will find that "Mother is valued by her son" is also mentioned in "Gongyang Zhuan". So, what does "Mother is valued by her son" mean? He Xiu notes: "Ritual, if the concubine is established, the mother will be
It’s madam. It’s a common practice for madams.”
The "Mrs. Chengfeng" here refers to the "Spring and Autumn Classic": "On the 11th day of the winter of the fourth year of Duke Wen's reign, Mrs. Feng passed away." Also, "On the 11th day of the 1st month of winter in the fourth year of Duke Wen's reign, Mrs. Feng passed away." Also, "Mrs. Feng passed away in March of the 5th year of Xinhai. My little king was buried in Chengfeng."
The Feng family was the mother of Duke Xi and the concubine of Duke Zhuang. Duke Xi was established, so she was honored as his wife. The "Spring and Autumn Annals of the Zuo Family" says: "In the spring of the fifth year, the king sent Uncle Rong to Han, and he asked Duke Zhao to summon him.
Come to the funeral for the ceremony."
"Han" refers to the pearls, jade and other objects placed in the mouth of the deceased in ancient times, and "赗" refers to the things given to the bereaved family for burial. Du Yu noted: "Cheng Feng was the concubine of Duke Zhuang. The emperor married her as a wife, Ming Dynasty
A mother values her son, so it is called etiquette."
However, the "Spring and Autumn Period: The Ninth Year of Wen Gong" says: "The people of Qin came to return to Duke Xi, and they became popular." "Biography of Gu Liang" also said: "The people of Qin also had Mrs. Fu, that is, the Mrs. Fu from outside saw the truth." I think.
The people of Qin do not regard Chengfeng as a wife and concubine as a wife, so it is righteous.
It’s a bit complicated here. The Spring and Autumn Classic records that Duke Xi’s concubine’s mother was his wife, and the three biographies have conflicting interpretations of the events recorded in the Spring and Autumn Annals:
"Gongyang Zhuan" did not explain specifically that Cheng Feng was his wife, but in "The First Month of the Spring King of the Yin Dynasty" it was proposed that "mother is more valuable than her son"; "Zuo Shi Zhuan" said that the emperor of Zhou buried Cheng Feng He with the ceremony of his wife.
According to the etiquette, Chengfeng was recognized as a wife and the etiquette was met; "Gu Liang Zhuan" ridiculed Chengfeng as a wife and regarded a concubine as a wife.
The three Chun and Autumn Annals have obviously different opinions on whether it is appropriate to treat Chengfeng as a wife according to etiquette. Therefore, whether "mother is more valuable than son" has a principled status in etiquette and law has always been a controversial issue.
In fact, there is a conflict between "mother is more important than son" and "distinguishing between legitimate concubines". The distinction between wives, concubines and concubines originally came from the ceremony of marriage conclusion. The identity of legitimate concubines is fixed, while "mother and concubines" are in conflict.
"Children are precious" breaks this fixed principle of status and dignity.
Of course, if we must ask whether "the child is more valuable than the mother" or "the mother is more valuable than the child", then we can only distinguish based on time.
Generally speaking, in a big family, or simply in the Tian family, when the son is still young and his status is uncertain, the son is more noble than the mother; when the son overcomes all difficulties and inherits the family business or the throne, it is the son who is more noble than the mother.
Mother is more valuable than her son.
Of course, occasionally there is an intermediate situation, that is, when the son has obtained the status of heir but has not yet inherited. In this case, as the biological mother of the child, the mother can usually be valued more than the son.
However, there are exceptions in history. For example, Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty, Liu Che, pioneered a shocking system: establishing a heir apparent and killing his mother. This system has been mentioned before in this book, so I won’t go into details.
In short, establishing a prince is a very complicated matter. Even though the Ming Dynasty's rules have been established for a long time, Zhu Yijun still tried - at least once tried to change them through "ancient" means.
However, Zhu Yijun was not the only one who tried to find a way from the "ancient" practice. At that time, the Heart School made a suggestion that the empress could adopt the emperor's eldest son Zhu Changluo, which would avoid the emperor's eldest son's status being
The trouble of being "dragged" by his biological mother.
However, this suggestion was stymied by Gao Pragmatic at that time. Gao Pragmatic did not use any other tricks. Again, the queen is still young, how do you know that the queen will not have any problems in the future? In addition, Zhu Yijun really doesn't like Zhu Changluo,
This matter did not go as planned by the Heart School.
However, although the matter has been suppressed, this kind of thinking inertia will not disappear, so what Zhong Zhaodou said at this time still follows this approach.
However, this time Zhong Zhaodou really miscalculated.
It's not that this idea can be rejected by Qian Menggao. How dare he deny the "Spring and Autumn", one of the "Five Classics"? Don't talk about him, even Gao Pragmatic, who was born in the Sixth No. 1 Scholar, is now studying pragmatically.
The name of the sect does not dare to directly deny the views of "Spring and Autumn". The most I can do is write a review of "Spring and Autumn", saying that everyone had misunderstood when reading this book before. In fact, this is not what "Spring and Autumn" means, but
What, what, what...
If this is the case, then why do you still say that Zhong Zhaodou miscalculated? In fact, it is because Qian Menggao did not want to debate the scriptures this time, he wanted to talk about human nature.
Qian Menggao not only did not refute Zhong Zhaodou's words, but instead first echoed: "What Section Chief Zhong said is absolutely true. As long as the Imperial Concubine loses her status second only to the Empress in the harem, the Third Prince of the Emperor will naturally be gone."
Capital for the right position."
Zhong Zhaodou raised his eyebrows slightly. Although he said nothing, everyone could see what he meant: Then what nonsense are you talking about?
At this time, Xiao Daheng seemed to have thought of something, and frowned quietly, a trace of gloom flashing between his brows. However, he still did not speak and continued to remain silent.
Qian Menggao smiled, first looked at Xiao Daheng, and then gave Zhong Zhaodou his hand, Shi Shiran said: "General Xian, Chief Zhong, with your understanding of the emperor, you will think that Concubine Zheng will be fine after this incident."
Will it be ruined?"
Xiao Daheng not only didn't reply, he even closed his eyes gently. He didn't think what Qian Menggao said was nonsense. On the contrary, he agreed with what Qian Menggao wanted to express, but he just didn't want to admit it, so he made this decision.
The state of mind with closed eyes.
Zhong Zhaodou finally felt that the matter was difficult this time, and he frowned deeply, forming the character "Sichuan" between his eyebrows. He thought for a while, and said with a slight reluctance: "Even if the emperor is nostalgic, he is unwilling to throw Concubine Zheng into the cold palace or do something like this."
She would be punished more severely, but with such bad deeds, it was impossible for the emperor to restore her status soon after the incident.
Then, as long as we work harder, we can determine the overall situation within this period of time and make the third prince completely lose the chance to win the throne."
"Oh, really?" Qian Menggao didn't seem to believe it, and asked with a smile: "I wonder what Chief Zhong's so-called efforts really mean? Could it be that... he wanted the emperor's legitimate son to be canonized earlier?"
This is actually a bit of a slap in the face, because whether it is Zhong Zhaodou or Zhao Zhigao, the two masters and disciples are still members of the Xin School in the final analysis, and the Xin School has always supported Zhu Changluo. Those who support the empress, the emperor's legitimate son, and his mother have always been
They are people from the Practical School, or even more accurately, they are from the highly pragmatic group of the Practical School.
You are a member of the Heart School. Because of "Brother Zhao" Zhao Fengwei's incident, you followed your mentor Zhao Zhigao and went to help Gao Jingjing once. Qian Menggao recognized this, but are you planning to abandon the identity and position of the Heart School together?
?This is a bit like "bullying the teacher and destroying the ancestors"!
However, if Zhong Zhaodou can be valued by Zhao Zhigao, he naturally has a few brushes. He snorted softly and said: "I can't comment on the crown prince's canonization. What I am talking about is the matter of the emperor's third son being crowned king of the country.
To sum it up, the third son of the emperor can definitely be crowned king this year, and after being crowned king, he can consider the country. In this way, as long as Concubine Zheng is punished to create a big momentum, the emperor will have to listen to the calls of hundreds of officials and canonize the third son of the emperor.
As the king, and at the same time commanding his country, then naturally Concubine Zheng, mother and son's desire for the throne should be put to an end at one stroke."
Just as Qian Menggao's words caught Zhong Zhaodou off guard, Zhong Zhaodou's words also made Qian Menggao speechless for a moment. But he reacted quickly and immediately shook his head and said: "I think Section Chief Zhong thought of this matter too simply.
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He paused and said: "The emperor's third son was born in the fourteenth year (the fourteenth year of Wanli). According to Taizu's rules, he should be crowned king at the age of ten and become a vassal at the age of twenty. Then the emperor can definitely say that he will wait until the third year of Wanli.
I will order my country again in fourteen years..."
Zhong Zhaodou shook his head and said: "Chief Qian, you and I are both extraordinary villagers, so there is no need to say this. Grandpa Taizu did say this, but in fact, how many vassal princes actually followed this
What is the number of years to carry out the canonization and vassaling?"
Well, it's really no wonder that Zhong Zhaodou didn't take Zhu Yuanzhang's "ancestral methods" seriously, because in fact Zhu Yuanzhang himself didn't do it.
Among Zhu Yuanzhang's sons, the eldest son Zhu Biao was conferred the title of prince at the age of thirteen... Let's leave this aside for now. After all, the prince is special and cannot be compared with ordinary vassal kings.
Then look at some of his other sons. Except for the second to fifth sons, who were strictly arranged according to the age of twenty, starting from the sixth son, there have been thirteen consecutive sons who have not reached the age of twenty, among which
The youngest is fifteen years old and the oldest is eighteen years old.
Your great-grandfather himself couldn't do things strictly according to the rules. Later emperors naturally followed the same example. There were basically no rules when it came to establishing kingship and vassalage. For example, Zhu Di's son, King Zhao Zhu Gaosui,
It took twenty-one years after he became king to become a vassal, and he was already thirty-nine years old at that time.
If it was too long ago to become an ancestor, then take a look at Zhu Yijun's good brother Zhu Yiliu. His Royal Highness Prince Lu was crowned king when he was only two years old, but he only became a vassal of Weihui - Zhu Yuanzhang's so-called ancestor - at the age of twenty-three.
It's useless to make it here.
There is another situation that Qian Menggao and Zhong Zhaodou cannot possibly know now: in the original history, Zhu Yijun not only kept Zhu Changxun by his side and refused to let him go to his country, but also his other sons later
They were treated the same way, and Zhu Yijun refused to let them go to his country.
Counting Zhu Changxun, he was the only one who was released from the country when Zhu Yijun was alive. It was already the forty-second year of Wanli, and Zhu Yijun was really tired of the dispute over the country.
After Zhu Changxun, Zhu Yijun's other three sons, Zhu Changhao, Zhu Changrun, and Zhu Changying, were even more exaggerated. They did not let their country go until Zhu Yijun died. It was not until March and April of the seventh year of Tianqi that these three emperors' uncles of Tianqi Emperor
The countries that were able to gather together were Hanzhong, Jingzhou and Hengyang.
So in short, Zhong Zhaodou proposed to force the emperor to confer Zhu Changxun as king as soon as possible and demand that he be crowned king immediately. From the perspective of Ming Dynasty's customary practice, there was no problem.
In this way, the ball...oh, Cuju was kicked back to Qian Menggao's feet again.
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ps: My cousin is positive. At the same time, there seemed to be something wrong with my son's throat last night. I plan to observe it during the day today. The antigen reagents are limited and I dare not use them randomly. Alas, maybe parents have the same thought. I pray.
Just bring all the illnesses, disasters, and disasters upon yourself, and don't look for the children...
