Guderian had already shown obvious displeasure, but Ouyang Yun did not let him go. He continued: "The most important quality of a soldier is loyalty, but this loyalty is not for a certain person, but for the country. General, don’t you think that if Germany allows Hitler to continue like this, it will sooner or later become a public enemy of the world and repeat the mistakes of World War I? Please wait until I finish. Yes, judging from the current situation, your country has occupied a leading position in every battlefield. We must take the initiative, but what we must see is that that is the reason why other countries are not ready. Take Britain for example, because of the existence of India as a colony, do you think your country can finally defeat it?"
"I don't agree with your point of view. Take Russia as an example. If your country hadn't sent troops, the situation in the Soviet-Russian war would have been decided." Guderian actually didn't want to say this, because it would seem to admit that the German army was inferior to the Chinese army. , but if he wanted to refute Ouyang Yun's argument, he could only talk about the war situation in Soviet Russia.
Ouyang Yun smiled and shook his head, saying: "I'm very grateful for your compliment, but I don't think your country can completely conquer Soviet Russia. Without it, Soviet Russia is really too big, and as the battle lines lengthen, Does your country have the military strength and strength to maintain governance? Haha, in fact, from my personal point of view, I am not disgusted with your country's expansion. In fact, I will feel happy when I see the British and Russians being defeated, but I have to What I am saying is that the head of your country is really overjoyed. Your country could actually seek to lead a new world structure after conquering Europe. It is a pity that your government gave up on its own. To use our ancient Chinese saying, this It’s called going too far and not doing enough, and have you considered that even if your country can completely conquer Soviet Russia, will the head of your country stop? No, he will definitely seek to dominate the world like taking opium. In that case, China will Sooner or later, there will still be a fight between Germany and Germany, so when we send troops to the Soviet Union and Russia to send troops to North Africa, it is not so much to safeguard world justice, but actually to nip it in the bud."
"Isn't it to dominate the new world structure?" Guderian said coldly, squinting at Ouyang Yun, as if he had seen through his essence.
Ouyang Yun didn't expect that he had the ability to learn and apply. He smiled slightly awkwardly and waved his hands: "I'm off topic. Let's get back to the topic. General, let me ask you the truth from a personal point of view. What do you think of your government's current situation? Is it the right thing to do?"
Guderian looked at him and saw the sincerity on his face, so his expression softened slightly, and he thought for a while and said: "It is the bounden duty of a soldier to obey orders, since I am still a soldier now."
Seeing that he still didn't mean what he said, Ouyang Yun waved his hand impatiently and interrupted directly: "General, it seems that you don't mean to be honest with me. Do you need me to repeat it again? The loyalty of soldiers should be given to the country. Rather than someone, well, since you don't want to reveal your true feelings, I won't force you. Let's talk about the terms of cooperation. Yes, I came here to see you this time in the hope that you can help me train a person. A chariot unit, you don’t need to look at me like this. The reason why I have such an idea is, on the one hand, because you have this ability. Secondly, I also hope to win the battle quickly. Don’t you think this century The war has lasted for too long and has seriously affected the normal development of human civilization. So, since it is destined to fight to the death, why not let it end early? Moreover, I think it is not that there are no opportunities for cooperation between your two countries. After all, , What our country is opposing now is Nazism, and it is not deliberately targeting Germany. You just admitted that our country has the ability to change the world war situation. What I want to say is that since your country follows the current path, it will only fail. , then why not change his guide...
"Okay, I admit that our government has contacts with the anti-Nazi organizations in your country, and even has certain contacts with resistance organizations in other European countries. However, what I can solemnly declare is that I have no hostility towards the people of your country. Not only It's me, I think all the people of our country remember the generous help your government once gave to our country...
"We actually have something in common in some aspects. We don't want to see Britain continue to be an empire on which the sun never sets. Europe can be the Europe of the Germans; and Asia should be the Asia of the Chinese. So you say Maybe it feels too nationalistic, but the experiences between our two countries have taught us that only if our fists are strong enough will we not be bullied. Have you ever thought about it? In fact, there is a great opportunity in front of us now, which can make us We build a new order in Europe and Asia according to our own ideas. I don’t know if you have thought about this issue. Frankly speaking, this is what I have been thinking about the most during this time. If your two countries join forces, it is absolutely possible. Build a new world order."
"...I don't know if General Ouyang said similar things in front of other people. What I want to say is that I was completely shocked at the time. My first reaction was to dismiss it, and I waited until I returned to the place of detention to calm down. , I thought about it seriously, and couldn’t help but feel excited... I had never thought about becoming a great man in German history, but when I think of the unfair treatment we encountered after the one-stop operation, I must admit that General Ouyang These words were like opening a Pandora's box, which made me completely tempted by the contents." This is a passage from Guderian's book "My Chinese Friend", as he wrote in the book In this way, when Ouyang Yun finished the long speech above, because some of the words needed Pan Meiren to translate, he was actually confused and dismissed it.
At that time, Guderian probably classified Ouyang Yun into the same category of people as Hitler, thinking that he was just a guy who liked to talk and seduce people's hearts.
As for Ouyang Yun, he actually did not expect that he could say these words, so not only Guderian was shocked, but Pan Meiren, Xiao Yi, Liu Kui and others were also shocked.
What Ouyang Yun has been pursuing is to use this unprecedented war to gain the greatest benefits for China. At the same time, he has to admit that although China's current military strength is not weak, it is far from the point where it can dominate the world. Moreover, because the industrial foundation was too weak, this also hindered the military. In fact, he took great pains to help Ambos form the French Nationalist Army and almost insisted on supporting the Soviet Union and Australia, but it was regarded as militarism.
His real purpose in doing all this is to find allies. However, is there any better ally than Germany at the moment? Only then did Ouyang Yun realize that this was darkness under the light.