Xiao Zixin asked the female reporter Wang Xique to interview Wang Dejun for several days. The person who was about to die was happy to say more. He seemed to have a desire to talk in his heart to support him. Therefore, the female reporter's interview was relatively smooth.
Go deeper step by step.
Sometimes, Xiao Zixin will accompany him personally when he has time. If he has time, he will let Anxin or Yang Tong and others accompany him... No matter what, this interview again and again is also beneficial for Xiao Zixin to psychologically grasp and understand the suspect.
He is happy to see it happen...
The interview is conducted in a way that one talks and one listens. Most of the time, the female reporter Wang Xique listens silently, and only the interview recorder is turning gently, and a "rustling" sound occurs.
The main thing is Wang Dejun’s “speaker” - “To be honest, in the twelve years since I returned from the army, I have seen with my own eyes that everyone hates not much corruption, but as an article said, “corruption” in a broad sense
——"Abuse of public power" can be seen almost every day, and the extension is much larger.
"Although I have never been a cadre over the years, I have seen many officials in the county. In addition to "seeking for personal gain", there are also many actions and inactions that do not have the motivation to seek personal gain. Such as subjectivism, faith,
How bold people are, how much property is?, hostile to science, decision-making is like a joke. Taxpayers' blood and sweat are like dirt, less slow and less expensive, and they are very happy to be successful (although, the good is the interests of the general public of socialism, and the good is the people'
) , harms the country and the people; like bureaucracy, harsh policies like tigers, treats the people like grass, and promotes "silent and quiet", "avoids" the legacy of the yamen. Every time I see a leader of the municipal party committee going out, I mobilize many people, and wherever I go, I am uneasy."
"If I want to see this as a commoner, I am like formalism, and I don't care about anything and have a lot of skills."
"A mountain of literature and sea of writing, false reports and exaggeration, there is nothing wrong in the world, mediocre people disturb themselves, and even if they do not do anything useless, it is difficult to live a life of a limited life; it is also like a bloated organization, inefficient and incompetent, and not planning the government in his position."
"Their people, especially cadres from all over the world, have a cup of tea, a newspaper, and cigarettes are lingering in the air to spread rumors and pornographic jokes. These behaviors do not have a clear 'self-interest' motivation, but are supported by taxpayers
If you do not provide qualified public products, they are all abnormal use of public power, namely, "abuse". Reporter, do you think so, should you be included in the broad scope of corruption?"
Haha, when he talked about it, Wang Dejun couldn't stop the car, as if his crime had been confessed, and he felt much more relaxed, talking endlessly, and pouring out thousands of miles.
The female reporter kept memorizing and not interrupting him.
Xiao Zixin stared at him and remained silent. During the days when he dealt with the person in front of him, his mood was in conflict. He couldn't listen several times and wanted to interrupt Wang Dejun, but when he saw that the female reporter Wang Xique didn't say anything, he listened.
"It's a lot of miles off the topic! If you don't talk about the motivation, why are you going so far?"
"Tell me about the motivation and the day." He finally couldn't help but reminded.
Wang Dejun looked at him and then to the others, and reacted calmly.
"So, tell me what prompted you to take the last step?"
"What is it?" Wang Dejun asked back, looked at the female reporter, and smiled indifferently: "I don't know either. I said it. Now that I think about it, there is a process - I can't treat myself as my benefactor the day before yesterday.
People, when they wake up, they kill them? Isn’t it? But what prompted me to take this last step? I don’t know either.”
Xiao Zixin went out with a slight face.
He stood outside the door and still smoked. The longer he was the top leader of Xuanpu County Public Security Bureau, Xiao Zixin became more and more aware of this society, especially the interrogation of some people, which allowed him to learn more about the other side of society.
The real situation.
"My comrade-in-arms, Feng Jiang, is Feng Daling, you all know. In order to defend the motherland, he did not die at the hands of the Vietnamese devils, but he was punished by a leader of the municipal party committee so hard that he was imprisoned for more than half a year and was beaten to death.
I pulled it in my pants, but in the end I didn’t even give me a statement. This was the first time I was disappointed or hated a leader of the municipal party committee.”
"Feng Jiang is a hero on the battlefield. He almost died. He has no complaints. He just doesn't like some things and is not angry. In fact, it's nothing he has done. The letter of reporting was actually written by me.
, and it was not instructed by anyone at all. Are you still using anyone to instruct me these days? All our comrades-in-arms think that whether you are the leaders of the municipal party committee or your son, you can't be so domineering, you can do whatever you want in Changjiao City.
, Do you deserve this?”
"Then...you?" asked the female reporter.
"No." Shaking your head. "It's never that simple."
"No matter what, a leader of the municipal party committee has been kind to me, and this cannot be denied. In a sense, I knew him when he was the county party secretary. Without him, there would be no happy life for so many years after my demobilization.
.I am not afraid of you making jokes. I have never taken a small car before I met a leader of the municipal party committee.”
"The first time I sat down was his Audi. Because the seal was too tight and nervous, I vomited. A leader of the municipal party committee said nothing, and asked the driver to stop the car, patted my back, and let me vomit."
"I went from the countryside to join the army and returned to the countryside when I came back. When a leader of the municipal party committee looked for me, he heard a nodding hero - my friend, who was the director of the policy research office of the county party committee office, introduced him."
"Later, he arranged my first job, and I was very grateful to him later, so if you ask me why I did this... I don't know...ah!"
No one speaks.
When Xiao Zixin heard this, he lost the locomotive and walked in from outside and continued to listen to him.
"I admit that a leader of the municipal party committee is good and treats me very well. Especially when he was in the county, I worked in the townships below and had contact with him for so many years, but he went from the county party committee to the municipal party committee, and later he
It's different. It's becoming more and more arrogant, and the distance between it and the people is getting farther and farther away. Later I heard that I have seen him bully the people and treat the people with his own eyes... There are so many things, and you say you're angry when you hear them.
Are you angry? Anyway, I was angry and began to dislike this person in my heart. Later I hated him, especially after he asked the public security bureau to beat my comrades, I hated him even more!"
"After Feng Jiang's incident, I wanted to say a few words for him. After all, we are comrades-in-arms in life and death, but... what can I say? We ordinary people, we went to the listing committee to find leaders again and again, and even the door was in.
If I don’t go, I know the temper of a leader of the municipal party committee. If I don’t do it well, I will be fine. Feng Jiang’s family will suffer even more. The comrades are unfair and often discuss this matter together."
"I also talk about other things, and the more I talked about it, most of my comrades work in state-owned enterprises, so I quit working, laid off, and became unemployed people. Who are you blamed? But these people have been laid off in recent years
More and more, life suddenly became lost. They were all in their forties. Some couples were in the same unit and could not find their jobs. They didn't care about the original unit. They went to the streets to do business secretaries and businessmen.
, Taxation is not allowed, but I have to live with them! I don’t want to set up a small stall, which will affect the city appearance, and I still ask us how to live? When we defend our country, we don’t want to have blood and sweat, these are they
Why don’t officials say that we affect the city appearance? They also say that we are the cutest people!”
"It's really his horse who can fool us, and he's stupid to fool us. He doesn't know anything, but we still know who is good and who is bad?"
"How do I live? I often think of the things that happened in front of the municipal party committee. We demobilized soldiers went to look for them again and again, ask for them, and cry... I felt really conflicted and uncomfortable."
"A main leader of the municipal party committee, who is an official, is such a big official, and we ordinary people know that it is not so easy to be a parent, who has to take care of everything and worry about everything-but,
A leader of your municipal party committee has never asked about the affairs of us ordinary people. He has been 'taking big things' all day long. He is a big thing about the big things. Is he playing with women to make money? He only cares about urban construction projects, attracting investment, and an antique street
, urban planning, urban greening and other major issues. Have a lot of money to make!”
"Don't talk nonsense, Wang Dejun!" Xiao Zixin couldn't stand it anymore, and suddenly stood up and waved his hand to stop him.
"Why are you talking nonsense?" Wang Dejun was stunned for a moment, took a rest, and said, "What I have experienced personally is called "Nonsense?"
"Then you can't talk to reporters like this. What do you think?" Xiao Zixin admitted in his heart what he said. He wanted to talk about the feelings of the officialdom. Xiao Zixin knew the most and understood the simple officialdom relationship and so much.
The "education" over the past year made him feel unable to accept his "nonsense". The female reporter Wang Xique smiled and said, "Director Xiao, don't be angry. Let him say, I just want to hear the truth, he
If you want to say something, let him say it? OK?"
Xiao Zixin looked at her and felt that since she was interviewed, it was not good to intervene too much. His simple feelings of rural children had the upper hand again. After thinking about it, nodding, it was a default.
However, he immediately warned Wang Dejun: "Speak, think about it, and after speaking your mind, don't dare to throw anything out. You are the one who is going to die. Don't the female reporter and I still have to pay attention to the influence and continue to work?"
"Okay, I'm wrong. I'll try to say less and just talk about my motives - in fact, these are all related to my motives this time. If you don't let me say it, then I won't say it." Wang Dejun nodded and agreed. He also
A little hesitant.
"Say, say! Just be careful." Xiao Zixin also wanted to know what his motive was.
"Okay, then I will continue to say that if you don't solve the problem of life for us, you won't see anyone even when you go to find you, and you can't even enter the door. We are really disappointed again and again, hateful!
Although he sometimes talked at conferences and boasted on TV programs, he also boasted about the problems of laid-off workers, social security issues, urban pollution issues, and complaints that the masses strongly reflected.
But in fact, he has never really paid attention to it. Has he cared about it, and he has never actually studied and solved it."
"I have been working in this city next to him for the past few years. I don't know what I saw. Didn't I see it all with my own eyes."
Wang Dejun sighed, as if he was savoring his words, and as if he was very sad.
Xiao Zixin frowned, still the same thing, just listened and didn't say a word. Occasionally, he would look up at Wang Dejun, look at the female reporter Wang Xique, and then continued to light a cigarette and suck it one by one. I don't know what he was thinking about
.
The female reporter recalled quickly and did not speak.
After pausing for a while, Wang Dejun continued:
"Feng Jiang once complained to me, saying that he couldn't do it, just send him a explosive bag and see if he cares? Haha--this scared me." Wang Dejun smiled, very strange and very happy.