"I have long heard that Qingzhou's new policy has something special, but I have never had the time to delve into it. When I saw it today, everything is really strange and confusing."
"What Gongda said is, let's not mention anything else, let's just talk about making money. Others make money just to make money. After the copper is minted, it becomes five baht coins, and its value suddenly increases by nearly two times.
If there are some manipulations in the casting process, the profit will be more. Just like Dong Zhongying back then, those who minted money were afraid that they would not be able to spend the money, but Qingzhou just did the opposite. Isn't it strange? "
"The tax system is also extremely weird. The wise kings in ancient times regarded doing light corvee and paying little tax as a virtue, but this Wang Yu did the opposite. Let's say he doesn't care about reputation. He has done many things to gain fame in the past, but on the surface
The tax is already 60%, how can it not be daunting?"
"For Cheng, the most difficult thing to understand in Qingzhou is the martial arts system. Reports from many parties all agree, saying that men in Qingzhou exercise every five days, and the people can't help but engage in private fights, and all kinds of weapons can't be used. If a war breaks out,
, it may provide temporary convenience, but how can this be the way to long-term peace and stability? Isn’t this just drinking poison to quench thirst?”
"In short, there are a lot of weird things, and they are not without contradictions, which makes people confused and difficult to distinguish. If it is said that these decrees are unreasonable, Qingzhou is so prosperous that it has completely exceeded the time of peace. If it is said that it makes sense,
Where does this truth lie?”
Ma Dai's guess about Luoyang was not entirely accurate. A tycoon like Cao Cao would certainly not have any reservations about his allies, but the information provided was ambiguous and contradictory, but it was not Cao Cao's fault. When he was reminded by Zhong Yao
Next, when he finally started to face Wang Yu as his opponent, he quickly fell into confusion and confusion.
There are too many things that go against common sense in Qingzhou’s New Deal.
Cao Cao's shogunate was full of great talents, not to mention Guo Jia, Xun Yu and others. After taking Chang'an, the newly joined Xun You, Zhong Yao and others were also immediate choices. He originally thought that even if the Qingzhou New Deal
There is something really weird about it, and it cannot be hidden from the eyes of this talented person.
At the beginning, just as Cao Cao thought, everyone brainstormed and pointed out the advantages and disadvantages of Qingzhou's New Deal one by one, but these were superficial things. After really in-depth study, these talented people
I also hit a wall.
As far as the minting of coins is concerned, there are considerable differences among people.
Cheng Yu believes that the reason why Qingzhou does not vigorously promote coinage is because the three types of coins in Qingzhou are of high quality, and Wang Yu has limited gold and silver in his hands, so he cannot fully spread the stall. He has to do it without wishing for reality.
But Zhong Yao believed that if it was just such a simple reason, Wang Yu could have tried other methods, such as reducing the amount of gold and silver used in coins, or directly minting five baht coins. Instead of creating such a half-baked situation. He thought Wang Yu could
Yu's move has profound meaning.
Both of their opinions have their own merits, but no one can convince the other, and the others are not busy helping, but each has his or her own thinking.
This measure taken by Qingzhou will definitely promote the prosperity of Qingzhou. Who would do something that is not beneficial? The problem now is that no one can see where the benefit lies.
Xun You was careful and pointed out one thing, saying that the exchange rate of Qingzhou's Kaiyuan Tongbao was much higher than that of five-baht coins, reaching an exaggerated ratio of one copper coin being able to exchange for ten five-baht coins!
What we are talking about here is the five-baht coin, not the small coin made by Dong Zhuo. The latter is purely a cheating thing. It just has a shape and no words are printed on it. It is several times lighter than the five-baht coin. Not to mention, the inside
It was also mixed with more than half lead.
Prices in Guanzhong rose sharply, reaching tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands per stone at one time. In fact, it was mainly caused by Fatty Dong's ignorance of economics and his random issuance of coins. To put it bluntly, it was over-issuance of currency and inflation.
The most puzzling thing about the currency regulations in the Qingzhou New Deal is here. Over-issuance of currency is the fastest way for rulers to make money. Wang Yu painstakingly created a bunch of new currencies, but did not fully issue them to the outside world.
Isn't it strange that it is only circulated within Qingzhou?
The suspicion pointed out by Xun You is not unreasonable. He believes that Qingzhou deliberately increased the ratio of old and new coins in order to seek excess profits.
As a result, as soon as he finished speaking, his uncle Xun Yu rejected his proposal.
"Gongda's words may not be unreasonable, but Qingzhou has adopted strict restrictions on the outflow of coins, and the round-trip exchange ratios of the exchange offices are not similar or different. If you take 15,000 bahts to enter the country, you can exchange them for 1,000 Kaiyuan Tongbao.
It can still be exchanged for 15,000 baht when the money comes, and there is no loss at all." Xun Yu spread his hands and asked.
"This..." Xun You couldn't make sense. Although he was rich in economics and knew the past and present, he had no understanding of economics, or to be precise, financial issues. This was also a common problem among Confucian children. He looked down on merchants and craftsmen. Of course,
Not enough is known about these people.
If Qingzhou ostensibly prohibits the circulation of Kaiyuan Tongbao and secretly sells it at an increased rate, it would echo the conspiracy theory. However, the problem is that although Kaiyuan Tongbao can be seen everywhere within Qingzhou's jurisdiction, very few of it circulate outside.
Businessmen are all discerning. Although Kaiyuan Tongbao is more finely crafted and of high quality than the five-baht coins, its value is at most equivalent to three or five five-baht coins. If it is ten coins, it is impossible to compare.
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It doesn't hurt to go to Qingzhou to buy goods. Anyway, even if you change the currency, the goods will still have the same price. At most, the locals in Qingzhou will appear wealthier, but that is not something to envy.
It would be a big mistake if someone brought Kaiyuan Tongbao out. People in Qingzhou recognized it, but not outsiders. It would be more cost-effective to barter.
Therefore, except for a small number of coins that were carried out privately by some people with other intentions, Kaiyuan Tongbao was only circulated in Qingzhou itself. Apart from this, it was not even available in Zhang Yan's Xisan County and the former jurisdiction of Youzhou.
——The Black Mountain Army was willing to use it, but unfortunately Qingzhou refused to let go, so in the end they had to give up.
If Wang Yu wanted to make money by raising the value of coins, he shouldn't have such strict restrictions, and there is indeed no trace of Kaiyuan Tongbao elsewhere. The problem pointed out by Xun You may have profound meaning, but it is certainly not what he said
generally.
"If we don't consider the cause and effect first and just discuss countermeasures, will counterfeiting be effective?" Guo Jia suddenly said.
"Counterfeit?" Everyone's eyes lit up, including Cao Cao, who had been listening with a frown.
Counterfeit money was an example that existed as early as the Western Han Dynasty. At that time, the imperial court minted five-baht coins. Princes outside secretly imitated them to benefit the imperial court. Of course, the Han court hated this, but interests drove people's hearts. Even though
As the emperor, there is nothing he can do about it. Although there are no large-scale imitations, petty fights are repeatedly prohibited.
Because they are all from the Liu family's own blood, even a hero like Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty could only hold his nose and admit it in the end. Anyway, the meat was rotten in the pot, right?
Now there is no jurisdictional relationship between Qingzhou and Luoyang. As long as it can hurt the enemy, it is a good strategy, and you can use it in any way. The superficial value of Kaiyuan Tongbao is higher than its actual value. As long as it can be copied on a large scale and taken away
By circulating in Qingzhou, on the one hand, you can share the benefits of Qingzhou's prosperity, and on the other hand, you can destroy Qingzhou's economic order. It is a way to kill two birds with one stone.
Cao Cao cleared his throat and was about to express his opinion. He wanted to set the tone of an issue first, so as to avoid confusing everyone and making everyone confused. But before he could speak, someone heard a long sigh: "Although the method is good,
I’m afraid it will be difficult to succeed.”
When he looked up, he saw that it was Dong Zhao who was speaking.
"Gongren has been in Hanoi before, and the two places are bordering each other. He must know more about Qingzhou?" Cao Cao said in a deep voice.
Dong Zhao had previously served in Zhang Yang's tent, but he had secretly had an acquaintance with Cao Cao. During the Northern Xinjiang War, Zhang Yang and Lu Bu had frequent contact, and it seemed that they were not far from Hanoi to change the banner. Especially during the Juyong War and Zhang Liao's Eastern Expedition.
After that, Zhang Yang was particularly shaken.
Dong Zhao was a smart man and could not be persuaded, so he simply worked as an undercover full-time. When he occasionally went on missions, he would report the situation in Hanoi and the dealings between Zhang Yang and Puyang.
Cao Cao knew Guo Jia's temper and was worried that Dong Zhao's direct appearance in the rebuttal would make the young military advisor unhappy, so he spoke out and pointed out Dong Zhao's identity to calm down.
Both the army and the shogunate have been expanding rapidly recently, and the overt and covert fighting between the old and new staff has become fierce. Cao Cao does not want his chief adviser to be involved. It is a good thing for the superiors if the people below are not united, but this kind of struggle will be somewhat involved.
Energy and efficiency will naturally decrease accordingly.
In fact, he was a little over-concerned. Although Guo Jia was a little arrogant, he was not the kind of self-centered person who should not be offended. He looked at Dong Zhao calmly and waited patiently for further explanations.
"I don't dare to praise you, but Hanoi and Qingzhou do have more contacts." Dong Zhao bowed his hands to Cao Cao as a gesture of apology, and explained: "The price of Kaiyuan Tong treasure is high, and the world is looking for profit, how can it not be a conspiracy? However,
If you want to imitate, there are several difficulties..."
He looked around at everyone and raised his index finger: "First, Kaiyuan Tongbao is exquisitely made. It has both writing and patterns on it, and the details can reach between the eyebrows. This kind of craftsmanship is really beyond the ability of ordinary people to imitate. Even if it is possible, it is
It’s easy to see through the appearance and spirit.”
As he said that, he took out a few treasures from his sleeves and passed them to everyone to see. There were gold, silver and copper coins among them. He was obviously prepared. Everyone who saw it nodded silently, just the vivid golden dragon picture.
, is already a very high technical barrier. Even if ordinary people are willing, how can they have such technology and conditions?
"Second, the exchange office in Qingzhou is not a fake one. In addition to exchanging coins, they will also register the information of the incoming people. They will not check the identity in detail, but if they conduct large transactions, the merchants will
We will check the information with the Department of Commerce. If the information does not match, then of course... So, imitation is not completely unfeasible, but it may not have any effect in the end."
Everyone looked at each other, never expecting that the exchange office could have such a function. But it happened that such a simple procedure was able to resolve Guo Jia's scheme.
The technical threshold is not a problem for a big force like Cao Cao. It may be difficult to imitate Qingzhou's plate armor and bed crossbow, but the obstacles in casting can be easily overcome. At most, the cost will be slightly higher.
Well, what does it matter?
But Qingzhou's move has blocked the road to imitation.
The higher the similarity, the lower the profit of fake money. If it is done flawlessly, the profit can only be doubled at most. If large quantities of transactions cannot be carried out in Qingzhou, then a large amount of fake money must be dispersed to many people.
If you purchase by hand, labor and freight are added, it doesn't matter whether the profit is enough or not. It's not like killing two birds with one stone at all.
Considering that Guanzhong and Luoyang's currency system was severely damaged by Dong Zhuo, things are even more difficult to handle.
After Dong Zhuo minted money, the financial system in Guanzhong had completely collapsed. The people no longer used coins, but returned to the original state of bartering. The hard currency was grain and silk.
Cao Cao is known as a capable minister in governing the world. He also knows a little about the role of a sound financial system in promoting the economy and people's livelihood. Now Guanzhong is in such a state of ruin. It's too late for him to try to restore the credit of the currency. How can he have time to help Qingzhou?
Cheng Yu said that Qingzhou did not have enough coins, so it controlled outflows. Although it was not entirely correct, it should have explained some problems. Gold, silver, and copper are very precious things, and the time for Qingzhou to go from chaos to peace did not last very long. Even if Wang Yu really
I found a mountain of gold and silver overseas. Doesn’t it take time to move it back and forth?
If he really copied counterfeit money on a large scale, and then used the method of avoiding public notice and buying it in small pieces, he might really fall into the pit dug by Wang Yu.
The people present were all experts. Even if they didn't think as carefully as Cao Cao, it wouldn't be too different. They were all silent for a while.
Dong Zhao kept up his efforts and continued: "From Zhao Guan's perspective, Qingzhou's actions are indeed profitable, and the main benefits lie in immigration and trade."
Cao Cao asked in confusion: "How do you say this?"
Dong Zhao sighed and said: "In recent years, all the princes have been focusing on the battlefield in Guanzhong and have no time to pay attention to them. Maybe they don't know much about it. In fact, a lot of people have immigrated to Qingzhou in recent years. Take Hanoi as an example. After General Yuan's defeat, only the lack of
Within one year, the number of households that immigrated to Wei County was as high as 3,000, and the number increased sharply every year. Zhang Shijun had no choice but to surrender and accept the rebels. If not, there might be no people in Hanoi now, and where would they come from?
Soldiers?"
This was indeed beyond Cao Cao's expectation. Of course he knew the importance of population, but the problem was that when the hungry people escaped when they couldn't take care of the farming, it was still very good for the stability of the territory, so although he paid attention
However, we cannot say that we pay much attention to the flight of hungry people from two prefectures in Henan Province.
As for the nobles, he didn't think it was necessary for the nobles to flee to Qingzhou. It was known to the whole world that Qingzhou's suppression of powerful people started with Wang Kuang. Who would run to Qingzhou in a good way?
Dong Zhao's speech seemed accidental, but in fact he had prepared for a long time and put in a lot of energy, just waiting for it to be a blockbuster. So he knew what Cao Cao was thinking when he saw Cao Cao's expression.
"In the beginning, those who moved to Qingzhou were mainly poor and hungry people. However, after Wang Pengju changed the Yuan Dynasty and everything in Qingzhou was put on track, everything has changed..."
After listening to Dong Zhao's words, Cao Cao understood that although the general direction of Qingzhou's new policy remained unchanged, the details were constantly changing. For example, it was true that the iron-fist policy was initially used to curb the powerful, but after Wang Yu's power had been stabilized, the iron-fist policy became
It has become Huairou.
In the current New Deal, the suppression of power is mainly reflected in the loss of privileges of bureaucrats.
The biggest advantage of an aristocratic family is that it can concentrate the efforts of the whole family to support one person in the official career, and then use the privileges of being an official to support the family, thus forming a virtuous circle. As long as they can protect themselves in political struggles, they can continue to grow, and eventually
Become a terrifying behemoth like Yuan Clan.
Wang Yu's power was not very big at the beginning, and because of Wang Kuang's relationship, he offended Hanoi's powerful people. If he did not follow the trend and continued to implement the iron-fist policy to the end, he would be in trouble every step of the way. For example, Tao Qian and Liu Biao were both
A good example is that their decisions are often influenced by local powerful factions and they are unable to fully implement their own intentions.
When Wang Yu became powerful and the powerful people in his territory were only trembling with fear, his hand softened and he no longer continued to suppress the big families. Instead, he revised the official system and swept away the privileges of official families such as tax exemptions.
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If he had done this from the beginning, the backlash would certainly not have been small, but the remaining aristocratic families in Qingzhou were all subdued by Wang Yu and were frightened. Wang Yu suddenly took his hands away from their necks, and they didn't even care to breathe.
If you don't come here, how can you have the heart and courage to interfere with this fierce god's reform of officialdom?
"Therefore, Qingzhou is very attractive to those local powerful people who have not become officials. At least they can keep peace, study, and learn martial arts. They also have the opportunity to show their talents. Although the officials in Qingzhou are not as good as those in the past
Being an official is so refreshing, but in addition to family privileges, there are still things that should be available..."
"Since these families have moved to Qingzhou, there is no need to keep the five-baht money in their hands, or they have exchanged goods locally and brought them to Qingzhou. If they cannot buy enough goods, they can only suffer some losses and exchange money. This is
Qingzhou’s interests lie, and at the same time, this move can also deal a blow to the enemy."
"As Ming Gong thought, Hanoi County is not only short of people, but also short of money. Although it has not been affected by Dong's rebellious behavior, the people in the county can still only barter and are extremely short of supplies. Zhang Shijun wants to seek refuge in Qingzhou.
It’s not simply because of the strength of the hussar general or his friendship with Marquis Lu Wen, but because the situation is compelling and he has no choice but to comply.”
Cao Cao was dumbfounded and speechless. After a long time, he sighed, spread his hands, and laughed at himself: "I think I have some knowledge alone, and I am not mediocre, but why do I appear so... in front of a boy? It's just that I can't surpass it. How can I keep pace with even thinking about it?"
Is it so difficult?”
He was really depressed. His skills were inferior to those of others. Handan had been embarrassed since he was a toddler. Now he wanted to be embarrassed but couldn't get it. This was really frustrating. It was as if someone had cut him in the throat. It was painful.
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Suddenly, it was the Spring Festival. I just finished typing these 5,000 words, and I had to go out, otherwise I would be scolded again.
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