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Two hundred and seventy-eighth debate

 Zeng Juan breathed a sigh of relief when he heard that Agui had nothing to do with him. Li Ziyu is now the "leader" of their group, and he has a prosperous career now, so he has to protect his feathers. Agui and Li Ziyu are very close.

, being regarded as Li's "personal" is actually a very bad thing.

Zeng Juan was thinking about how to mention this to Li Ziyu when he came back, but the topic in the store turned from Yuan Shuzhi to tomorrow's public trial.

The public trial was held in Haipi outside Zhenhai Gate where the public sacrifice ceremony was originally held. The place was large and could accommodate many people, and the river beach was a good place for executions.

"I heard that the prisoners will be executed on the spot after the public trial."

"For such a big case, I heard that there are thousands of people involved in the case! At least half of them must be killed! If they kill, the river beach will be filled with blood!" Wang Da, who runs a delicatessen, started to get excited when he said this, "

At the command, hundreds of people's skulls rolled down, and the river turned red!"

He was dancing with joy as he spoke, and his face turned red with excitement.

Some people also said that Liu Dafu planned to drive all the prisoners into the river and drown them alive. This immediately aroused controversy. What if some of the prisoners were very good at water? Some people said that they must have sent a boat to watch.

Some people were good at swimming and swimming, so they poked them with spears. Others said it would be better to tie a bag of stones around everyone's neck. The fight made them blush and foam at the mouth.

"It is said that the Australians are going to carry out artillery execution this time! Tie the prisoners to the muzzle of the cannon and fire a gun! They will be blown to pieces and destroyed physically and mentally!"

"I heard from our neighbor's brother-in-law - his cousin works as a errand for the Australians - it's dog fighting! It means catching hundreds of dogs, starving them for three or four days, and then pushing the prisoners in and letting the dogs bite them..."

"Twenty-four!" Someone shook his head immediately, "Hundreds of hungry dogs? Where can we get them in a while? I have accurate news. A kind man from the Five Immortals Temple came to deliver tribute fruits to my family and said

The Australians want to use secret techniques and use lightning to strike death row prisoners..."

Then someone else said that Liu Dafu was preparing to go on a killing spree on the river beach and kill all the captured Guandi Temple troops from top to bottom. This was because they had done this in Qiongzhou Prefecture in the past, so everyone who went there was

Said there were no beggars there...

"How can Australians be so stupid? Although the Guandi Temple people are hateful, most of them are just a bunch of wretches. This is probably the tactic of punishing the culprits and never following threats."

The speaker was a middle-aged man, wearing a dongpo scarf on his head, a lotus root tie and straight skirt, and foundation soap boots on his feet. He was drinking at the table with two young men. He seemed to be a scholar from a well-established family.

, at least he is also a student.

The words of such a person naturally carry weight, and everyone's attention turned to him. Someone said: "According to this gentleman, the Australians will not go on a killing spree tomorrow?"

The middle-aged man calmly took a sip of wine and said slowly: "If the Australians want to go on a killing spree, they will sentence more than ten people to death today - in my opinion, they will be killed tomorrow."

, I’m afraid I won’t be able to kill many.”

At this time, everyone became more energetic. Wang Da loudly said: "This is a case of witchcraft. If it is revealed in front of the big..., it means killing everyone and annihilating the nine tribes!"

The middle-aged man chuckled and said calmly: "You must have gone to hear today's trial. Did you ever mention the word 'witchcraft'?"

At this mention, Zeng Juan also remembered that although "using evil magic" and "making evil medicine" were mentioned many times during the trial of the case, the word "witchcraft" was never mentioned from beginning to end!

"...I dare not say whether the Australians are implicated in the punishment of the Nine Tribes, but even the crime of witchcraft in this dynasty has not implicated the Nine Tribes. I think the Australians are definitely not like this."

When he opened his mouth and said "this dynasty", everyone lost their temper for a moment. However, everyone was concerned that he probably came from a respectable family and did not dare to accuse him of saying something wrong.

Zeng Juan couldn't help but said: "Sure enough, there is indeed no mention of witchcraft today. The ten or twenty crimes on which everyone was convicted are all irrelevant."

"That's it." The middle-aged scribe nodded and said, "Australians themselves are not willing to touch the word 'witchcraft', so how can they use it to create a big prison?"

"So, isn't tomorrow's public trial of little interest?" Some people were disappointed. For the people in the Middle Ages, torture was the best viewing item, a rare sensory stimulation in the ordinary and difficult life.

"That's not necessarily true," said the middle-aged scribe. "Since the beginning of time, Australians have adopted many methods that have not been practiced by their predecessors. I wonder what new tricks will come out this time."

While Chajuli was discussing, a similar discussion was also going on in the city hall.

"Shen Jian, Liang Yuan, you did a great job today!"

In a conference room of the city government, Liu Xiang patted the two of them on the shoulders while talking.

Liu Xiang did not attend the trial today - not because he did not have time, but because he wanted to give the people of Ming Dynasty the concept of "judicial independence."

In traditional Chinese justice, there is no separation between judiciary and administration, and the county magistrate will catch him. If Liu Xiang appears at the trial, even in the auditorium, everyone will have the impression that "Prefect Liu is the highest person in charge of the case."

Although he did not attend, he listened to the entire process through a wired phone in the city hall. He was very satisfied with the trial work, which can be seen from the fact that his title to Shen Ruiming changed from "Xiao Shen" to "Shen Jian".

"No, we have only done some minor work, but the comrades of the Guangzhou Police Department have a harder time. The burden is too heavy to arrest so many people at once and to provide confessions."

Liu Xiang praised the two of them a few more words, and then asked how to deal with these criminals.

"This matter is easy to handle. After the public trial and sentencing are over, the condemned prisoners can be hanged on the spot or in a few days. Whether the prisoners are left to you to do hard work or sent to Fu Youdi to open stones, it is also a matter of watching

You need it." The law on the execution of penalties has long been clearly stated, but Shen Ruiming was just following the script at this time.

Liu Xiang hesitated for a moment, then spoke: "According to the feedback from observers, the people are very angry about the harvesting and cutting of raw materials and the people in Guandi Temple. Hanging alone may not satisfy the people. I think appropriate cruel punishment can help Suppressing the current rampant crime situation can also let the people of Guangzhou breathe a sigh of relief. Do you think this is the truth?"

This is not the first time Liu Xiang has mentioned this, and he has made no secret of it: vicious social cases should be executed by torture, including being broken into pieces, tortured, or burned.

Shen Ruiming knew very well that Liu Xiang would do this sooner or later. The latter was not necessarily based on a simple view of justice, but more of a means of stabilizing social order. Not only did Liu Xiang have this request, but he and Liang Xinhu also accepted it. Letters sent to Lingao, either anonymously or signed. In addition to asking for severe punishment, various execution methods were also attached. Some asked for electrocution: the most people supported it; some asked for death row prisoners to be filled from the feet up. Some wanted to be immersed in aqua regia; some wanted to be executed with dogs or cannons; some wanted to be "sitting on stakes"; some even wanted to restore the ancient customs. They suggested mixing the corpses of executed prisoners with loess and gravel and building them into a hill outside Zhenhai Gate to build a "Beijing". "View"... There are so many kinds of things, it is simply a masterpiece of the history of torture and imagination in the world.

Before Shen Ruiming came to Guangzhou, he had already reached a conclusion with Ma Jia and others.

"Mayor Liu and everyone here. I understand your feelings very well. Like you, I also deeply hate the actions of these scumbags. Not severely punishing them is not enough to make the people angry."

"But," Shen Ruiming paused, collected his thoughts and then said: "But the law emphasizes predictability, which means that the punishment must be constant. Today we torture this group of people to death, what will happen in the future? Is it absurd? Do you have to pull wires to get an electric chair or find a group of dogs to share the meal every time in the countryside? Comrades, this is an issue related to the legal prestige of our Senate."

Liu Xiang thought to himself, don't play this trick in front of me, and said: "I understand what you said. I don't deny that governing the country according to law is important, but these are extraordinary times, and we cannot stick to these rules. As long as we can crack down on Just commit the crime. Besides, isn’t it also an expedient measure to prepare for a public trial?”

"Although it is an expedient measure, our "Anti-Rebellion Law" clearly states: 'Court trials and people's public trials are legal trial methods recognized by the Senate and the People's Supreme Court.' The fancy execution method you mentioned , but there is no basis for it in the laws enacted by the Senate."

Liu Xiang's face became more and more ugly, thinking that this law was not created by your jurists' lip service! What's the point of adding a few temporary clauses? Just as he was about to organize his words to prepare for a counterattack, Shen Ruiming spoke again. :

"Mayor Liu, I think your boss is mainly considering suppressing criminal activities and stabilizing order in Guangzhou? I have an idea that can achieve results without violating the law." Shen Ruiming sold it. Guanzi.

"Okay, okay, let's talk quickly." Liu Xiang said angrily.

Shen Ruiming looked at Cui Hantang on the side and spoke: "Last time, Taoist Cui took the lead in holding a public sacrifice in the name of 'to save the lives of the people who died in Guangzhou City and to pray for the living people of Guangzhou City'. The effect was very good. It can be seen that the medieval society Religion has a great influence on the people. This time when the prisoners are executed, Taoist Cui can also hold a 'curse ceremony'."

Liu Xiang was silent after hearing this, and Shen Ruiming continued: "Mayor Liu, there is an old saying, 'People are not afraid of death, so how can they be afraid of death?' No matter how cruel physical punishment is, it will never scare people. As far back as the early Ming Dynasty, and as recently as the campaign-style crackdowns decades ago, it has been proven that crime cannot be controlled by relying solely on harsh punishments. A two-pronged approach is necessary. In particular, the shaping of social psychology is very important. At present, Our capabilities are limited and our social development level is very low. Rather than doing these things in a thankless manner, we should take advantage of the superstitious psychology that prevails among the people and provide the right medicine."

ps:

Introduce and sort out important figures and event information;

Showcase the style of Lingao community and a traveling exhibition of outstanding fan and information works;

Organize online or offline gatherings of elders from time to time;

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