Another group of opponents came from a practical point of view, believing that the adoption of a dual-track hierarchy would lead to unclear affiliations and serious psychological imbalance among the natives. They cited the examples of the Kwantung Army and the Puppet Manchukuo Army to illustrate that a case in Puppet Manchuria
A Japanese major general serving in the national army is nothing more than a reserve lieutenant in the Japanese army. A lieutenant in the Japanese army can issue orders to senior Puppet Manchukuo officers. Needless to say, this phenomenon is intolerable in any time and space. This kind of
If obvious differences are implemented for a long time, they will cause strong dissatisfaction among indigenous cadres.
"First of all, we should confirm that the indigenous people are 'civil servants' and not 'state cadres.'" Wu De did not clearly say which system he supported, but set the tone first.
Ma Qianzhu said: "Is there any difference? Now we can't even get the minimum number of village cadres..."
"Of course there is a difference." Wu De said, "Are village cadres considered civil servants?"
This question is a bit difficult. In theory, they are "cadres" but not "civil servants". This involves many institutional issues.
From the perspective of controlling the number of officials, it is best not to become civil servants at the grassroots level like village chiefs. However, at this stage, Chuanchuan Group is strengthening its control over the grassroots level. The first task to strengthen the control over the grassroots level is to strengthen the construction of the grassroots cadre team.
"What we implement must be a civil service system, or a civil service system," Wen Desi said. "Everyone is well aware of the shortcomings of the original cadre system - the cadre team expanded too quickly, and the structure is prone to aging."
Ma Qianzhu will continue to debate this issue. His intention is to establish a group of cadres in the countryside who will completely obey the Chuanchuan Group and carry out all the orders of the Chuanchuan Group to the letter - what about rural autonomy and the like, Ma Qianzhu
I don’t think it’s heresy, but I feel that if this system is transplanted to this time and space, it may allow rural clan forces to continue to control grassroots power.
Because this issue was highly controversial, Wu De suggested to put it aside for the time being and decide on the level issue first. Finally, after discussion, it was believed that a dual-track system should not be implemented in the official level system to avoid artificial difficulties.
"The elder system is actually an aristocratic system that separates the people of time travel from the indigenous people. If we create an independent cadre system, it will be too complicated to manage." Wu De said, "I suggest that we can give time to time travel.
A high starting point. For example, military ranks start from major general..."
"That's not bad. The Army can't produce a large number of major generals!" Wen Desi immediately objected, "So many people work so hard, but just a section chief, a division chief, and a few hard guys here playing with fire sticks.
The party has become a major general?! I absolutely cannot agree."
Everyone knows that President Wen is not only not very fond of the officers who came from plagiarism in the army, but also dislikes most of the officers who came from civilians. Especially those who were born in the 1980s, Wen Desi has always scorned them.
"There is no need to separate the official levels," Wen Desi said. "First, the senators are equal to the nobles, and their status is already much higher than that of the natives. There is no need to show that they are superior in all aspects; secondly, now that the senators are appointed
All of them are leadership positions, while the natives only serve in low-level administrative positions. By the time the natives are promoted, the elders will have already reached a higher position. It doesn't matter if the native officers of the navy are promoted faster - this is a temporary phenomenon, and
So far, no native has a higher rank than a senator. Thirdly, even if some senators are really useless and insist on being an official and are unwilling to just be members of the Senate, they can still add a false title to improve their status.
His rank."
"Finally, we can put a glass ceiling on the indigenous people and only allow them to advance to a certain level, such as major general in the army."
"Of course our generation has no problem, but what about the next generation, the children of the elders?" Wu De asked.
"You guys, you haven't even written a word about Daye. You are all thinking about the future of the single cells in your body." Wen Desi smiled and shook his head, "Don't you think that the children of the elders will be in a battle that is the most unfair from birth?
Are you losing to the natives in the competition? It would be a good thing to eliminate such waste directly. Let’s think about the things in front of you first. I think my civil service system should be implemented as soon as possible, instead of talking about who the elders and the natives are here.
It’s a question of who to command.”
Then there was a discussion on the civil service system. In fact, this discussion had already started on BBS. From the retro-style martial arts doctors and Deng Shilang to the modern-style section chiefs, division chiefs, department directors, and then to the Republic of China-style
Chief, deputy chief, secretary, etc., to name a few. Ma Qianzhu began to sell his 24-level administrative system again.
"On the issue of official levels, it is not appropriate to have one size fits all." Wu De said, "There is no need to force uniformity. The army has the same situation as the army, and the government agencies have the same situation as the government agencies. It is impossible for the army to have three and nine levels, and the government can also do it.
Level three and level nine. Each department should be allowed to have its own official hierarchy system."
"This makes it impossible to compare levels. You see, the old 24th administrative level corresponds very clearly, and the 17th and 18th levels correspond to the main battalion, deputy battalion, main department, and deputy department. It is clear at a glance." Ma Qianzhu has never forgotten this system.
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"Such a comparison of levels is meaningless." Wu De said, "I am a retired officer myself, so I don't know this stuff yet? The so-called corresponding levels are useless at all. They are just a reference at most. They are only useful in your own unit!"
"I think we should adopt a system of separation of positions and levels for now." Xiao Zishan suggested, "The position is an 'errand', and there is also a level system, and this level determines the level of treatment..."
"Isn't this the Song Dynasty's system of sending salary officials?"
"I do feel this way, but I think this can solve the seniority issue." Xiao Zishan said, "In fact, we also discussed this issue last year when we were grading workers."
At that time, this issue was raised by Wu De, that is, if a worker cannot be promoted for a long time, his income will inevitably hover at a low level and cannot be improved for a long time. Such problems will also occur in the actual cadre system, because of ability issues, job titles, etc.
Due to their own connections or the total number of senior positions, there are always some people who cannot be promoted to a higher level after reaching a certain level. As a result, they will be stranded for a long time and their work enthusiasm will slowly fade.
Sometimes in order to solve the salary problem, people have to be promoted according to seniority. This is not a big problem in the military system. Soldiers in the army are mobile and they do not need to be promoted. Officers are in the minority, and promotion based on seniority will not cause any problems.
There are too many officers and few soldiers. Civil servants in government agencies rarely move around. Over time, there will often be many "department-level staff members", "division-level section chiefs", and even "department-level staff members".
The phenomenon.
In the past, Ma Qianzhu proposed a 24-level administrative level system, which is essentially linked to positions. Higher positions correspond to higher administrative levels and higher incomes. This still cannot solve the income problem of low-level cadres who cannot be promoted.
"For example, in our planned base unit of the police station, a newly graduated police officer is likely to be stationed in one place for a lifetime. The police are also human beings and have to support their families. If we let him stay in the police station for a long time,
The low level of income will inevitably encourage him to violate laws and discipline..."
"Hmph, it's another nonsense about high salary to support integrity," Ma Qianzhu sneered, "High salary can't support integrity!" He slammed the table to express the intensity of his opinion, "High salary will only attract some masters.
People with social power just stuff their connections into the civil service system.”
"Our current systems are different and cannot be compared..." Xiao Zishan argued.
"I think civil servants or cadres should be given higher treatment," Wu De said. "If you want to rule, you must decentralize power. Since power is decentralized, we must let them enjoy certain benefits - rather than letting them use the power in their hands to
Instead of stealing, let's share a piece of cake properly."
"To put it this way, shouldn't workers in our enterprises also enjoy this treatment?" Ma Qianxu said.
"That's not necessarily the case for workers," Wu De said. "Workers just work and get paid. We just need to ensure that they and their families have enough food and clothing. We don't engage in a welfare society."
The implication is that since there is no need to give workers administrative power, there is no need to give them too many benefits.
Ma Qianzhu had a sullen face and said nothing, while Wu De said: "Supervisor, high salary and high integrity are the world's trends - don't tell me that I am just talking nonsense about conforming to international standards. In fact, we only need to implement a strict management system.
This can minimize the problem of official corruption.”
"Yeah, what's the point of eating the so-called Cheka?" Someone thought of Yifan.
Finally, everyone agreed on the "separation of positions and grades" proposed by Xiao Zishan, and set up a 29-level administrative salary system. These 29 levels do not represent their power or position, but only represent the level of wages and benefits they enjoy. Those below level 13
Cadres are promoted by one level every year, and those with levels 7 to 13 are promoted by one level every three years; those above level 7 are promoted not based on seniority, but based on their ability level and contribution.
In this way, if an indigenous official serves normally without committing any serious faults or making any great merits, he can rise from the lowest level of 29 to level 7 after 37 consecutive years of service. This is almost the retirement age.
If indigenous officials make outstanding contributions, they can receive a one-time reward increase of 0.5 to 1 level. Similarly, as a means of punishment, promotion of the salary level can also be suspended for several years or simply lowered.
This level 29 administrative salary does not constitute the entire income of indigenous officials, otherwise it would not be able to reflect the differences in positions and abilities, so there are other incomes for indigenous officials in this plan.