The discussion on the Fa between Ye An and Bao Zheng was sometimes like a breeze blowing on their faces, and sometimes like a raging fire cooking oil.
The two have different identities, different statuses, different origins, and even different eras, but they can produce extremely shining sparks in these collisions.
"Scientists, farmers, industry and commerce, all walks of life should have laws. The state should not only have the "Song Xingtong", but also the "Business Law", "Agricultural Law", "Construction Law" and even "Road Law"! The shortcomings of the Song Dynasty are
The law is not perfect enough, and there are some places that cannot be followed. Naturally, decisions are made based on the feelings of the presiding officials. How can it be possible to avoid bending the law for personal gain? How can it not make the people feel cold?!"
"What Ye Hou said is very true, but it takes a long time to compile the law, and there are so many things in the class that it requires a lot of manpower and material resources. The sentiments in various places are uneven, and it takes a long time to implement the law.
You can't just punish the people without teaching them? It will only take ten years to accomplish anything!"
Ye An looked at Bao Zheng strangely: "So what ten years? This is a hundred-year plan! As times change, laws often change. Even the laws ten years ago will be more or less the same ten years later.
Needs modification......"
"That would make it even more unrealistic!"
After hearing what Ye An said, Bao Zheng immediately expressed his objection and looked at Ye An in surprise: "How did Marquis Ye know that the law ten years later is not suitable for the time? Could it not last for a hundred years?"
Ye An smiled and looked at Bao Zheng with helpless eyes: "Then what do you think should be done?"
"Bao Zheng does not object to what Ye Hou said. The "Song Xingtong" is indeed not comprehensive, but the continuous reform will make the people confused. In the end, people should be the first. If the people who enforce the law are all sensible and upright officials, then the law is insufficient.
Can make up for it with manpower!"
"Haha!" Ye An laughed angrily, pointed at Bao Zheng and yelled: "Look! Look! It's back to the original issue! What we discussed at the beginning was the relationship between human relationships and law.
Contradictions between the two! If the laws of the Song Dynasty were perfect and could punish Wang Qinruo, how could the official sage issue an order to excuse him?!"
Bao Zheng was horrified. He was originally a supporter of the law, but how could he end up justifying favors?!
In fact, his position had been changed by Ye An inadvertently, and he had begun to oppose Ye An's rewriting of the law in the debate. He was a scholar-official and an official. In essence, he advocated the rule of man, not the rule of law!
Ye An angrily slapped Bao Zheng, causing his head to tilt and said: "Idiot! The rule of law and the rule of man, there is a world of difference between the two. If you want to stick to one side, stick to it to the end! How can there be any talk of jumping left and right?"
Bao Zheng was beaten by Ye An. He had never been attacked like this since he became an official. But looking at Ye An's furious expression, it seemed that he had really made a big mistake?
In the sluggishness, he couldn't help but said: "The rule of law and the rule of man, which one is better?"
"Of course it is the rule of law! You just said that the law is like a mountain, and it is reasonable to use the law to measure criminals, but the premise is that the law must be set reasonably, so that the country can be governed according to the law..."
"Then what if there is really no choice but to do it out of necessity?!"
Ye An looked at Bao Zheng and felt that this guy was just a fool: "Do you think that even if it is the rule of law, it can't be separated from the rule of man? Things happen for a reason. If someone is in danger of being killed and resists and accidentally kills someone, do you think this is the case?
What is it? Should he be charged with murder or manslaughter?"
"How can killing someone in self-protection be considered murder? Are you just standing there, waiting to be killed?" Bao Zheng said it matter-of-factly, and even looked down upon Ye An's question.
Ye An nodded slightly: "That's it. At this time, the presiding officer needs to carefully verify the evidence, and based on the evidence, witnesses and many other clues, refer to the law to convict. In this way, the person will participate in the execution of the law. In this way,
When it comes to favors, don’t laws take into consideration?!”
Bao Zheng was stunned for a moment, and then looked at Ye An with eyes full of astonishment: "What Ye Hou means is that while perfecting the law, you also need to select upright people as law enforcement officials?! Isn't this the rule of man?! Isn't it the rule of left and right?
Are you right?!"
Ye An stood up slowly and said disdainfully: "Children only make choices, adults want them all! Your thinking is too rigid. You always think that it is black or white, right or wrong. You and I are not opposites. From the beginning, I
I have no intention of simply following the Legalist formula!"
These words made Bao Zheng stunned. With his mouth wide open, he realized that he had been being fooled by Ye An. From the beginning, he had to take care of both. Nonsense, no matter how good the law is, people need to enforce it. From the beginning
The rule of law cannot be separated from the rule of man!
"Ye Hou is truly a "righteous man and gentleman"!"
Bao Zheng gritted his teeth and spoke, and Ye An agreed with a smile: "Yu Shi Bao, thank you, thank you..."
From this small debate and discussion of the law, Bao Zheng gained a new understanding of the law, and of course a new understanding of Ye An.
Qin Mumu prepared a table of meals. She was quite curious about Bao Zheng, but she was just curious. The young censor in front of her in her twenties was always the same as the person in her memory who had a face as black as coal and a crescent moon on his head.
There is a huge difference, and he does not have the reasoning and case-solving skills of a "famous detective".
Just from his discussion about "law" with Ye An, it can be seen that he still has many immature aspects, but there is no doubt that he is an extremely upright and upright person and should be a good official.
Ye An and Qin Mumu still respect these famous officials in ancient times. It is because of their seemingly insignificant presence in history that makes China's history particularly dazzling.
It is precisely because of them that the history of the great Han family is as bright as the stars!
Bao Zheng originally didn't want to stay at the Yunzhong County Marquis Mansion. Even though he gained a lot after the debate with Ye An, he planned to leave. After all, it was the first time he met Ye An recently, so he did it in such a grand manner.
It's really not polite to stay for dinner.
"Marquis Ye, you didn't receive a gift when you first came to visit. You are not allowed to stay for a meal when you are here on official business. Bao Zheng takes his leave."
Ye An looked at Bao Zheng strangely: "Are you sure you don't want to stay for dinner? I heard that you like to eat fish, so my wife specially made a dish of squirrel mandarin fish, and the taste is quite outstanding..."
"Squirrel mandarin fish?"
This is the first time Bao Zheng has heard the name of a strange dish. He was born on the edge of Chaohu Lake in Luzhou and has been fond of eating fish since he was a child. When he heard this name, he immediately became unable to walk.
Ye An shook his head and smiled bitterly: "You are too old-fashioned. You are obviously in your twenties, but you insist on turning yourself into an old man. It is really helpless. Since I asked you to stay for dinner, you will stay.
Come on, where are all the excuses coming from? If you leave, won’t you embarrass the master?”
Being a little embarrassed by what Ye An said, Bao Zheng crossed his hands and said in anger: "In this case, Bao Zheng would be more respectful than obeying orders."